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Insomnia, but not lack of sleep, may hasten brain shrinkage: study

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Re: Insomnia, but not lack of sleep, may hasten brain shrinkage: study

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You know what the best way to stop sleeping well is? Read about all the things that poor sleep does to you. Especially when the quality of the research is as shaky as this link.

Matthew Walker, author of Wy We Sleep agrees with you. He has a page where he addresses some common reader concerns and criticisms and anxiety around quantity and quality of sleep is something he acknowledges: https://sleepdiplomat.wordpress.com/2019/12/19/why-we-sleep-... In that same post he addresses some of Alexey Guzey's oft repeated criticism of his work.

I experienced severe insomnia for awhile due to stress illness, and some stuff from The Sleep Coach School helped quite a bit. I'm doing well now, but I get a bit facepalmy when I see healthy people go looking for things to worry about.

https://youtube.com/@thesleepcoachschool8192

Re: Insomnia, but not lack of sleep, may hasten brain shrinkage: study

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> “Although the study found inadequate sleep duration was not an issue in brain atrophy in this study, we cannot say there is no association,” she said, noting that a previous CARDIA study showed that shorter sleep was associated with worse white matter integrity, indicating lower cognitive functioning. That quote seems to directly contradict the headline.

I like how scientists use words like less and more as if we know what reference points they are thinking

Re: Insomnia, but not lack of sleep, may hasten brain shrinkage: study

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I'm approaching midlife and noticing the quality of my sleep has declined. I can't sleep in anymore. Sometimes I'm waking up in the middle of the night occasionally and something I'm wide awake because I'm thinking about work or something like that. Very frustrating. Another reminder to try to pull myself away from the screens late at night.

I've also found it's hard to sleep in, I recommend going to sleep sooner. It's like I'm hardwired to wake up at a certain time, the only thing I can control is when I go to bed.

Yeah, same here. I'll wake up at noon, no matter what time I go to bed. If I go to bed at 2, I'll have ten hours of sleep, if at 6... You get the idea.

Now all I need is to have fewer interesting hobbies and builds at night.

Re: Insomnia, but not lack of sleep, may hasten brain shrinkage: study

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I sometimes wonder what damage 20 years of undiagnosed sleep apnea has caused. My sleep report showed 50 incidents of breathing issue per hour on average. I finally got a CPAP and it has literally made a world of difference to my life. Now I hear my toddler snore and hope that he doesn’t have it. At least, I can intervene early.

How’s the noise? Do you have a partner? I do day and night apnea and love to try a CPAP but my partner needs a quiet room to sleep. What features/specificities should one consider to choose a model? Can I buy second hands, does some parts wear off? Maybe should get one for when she don’t sleep at home, I’d love to feel rested at morning sometimes.

I just got one. It is silent according to my wife. It is kind of loud for me because it is blowing air into my nose which makes noise inside my head. But I like white noise - helps with the tinnitus.

Re: Insomnia, but not lack of sleep, may hasten brain shrinkage: study

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the public results only[1] (I don't have a copy of the whole study) they studied the following things looking for correlation with brain decline: * short sleep duration * sleep quality * difficulty initiating sleep (DIS) * difficulty maintaining sleep (DMS) * early morning awakening (EMA) * daytime sleepiness They only found that the middle four were correlated. I don't know what exactly "sleep quality" is but t…

Sleep quality, if excluding DIS, DMS, EMA, usually will refer to things like apneas, nasal congestion, digestion, noise or light in the room, etc. Disturbances that don't wake the person but do tax the brain.

I would describe low sleep quality as "difficulty entering or maintaining the restorative phases of sleep." It's the thing a sleep clinic measures with an EEG.

Re: Insomnia, but not lack of sleep, may hasten brain shrinkage: study

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I'm approaching midlife and noticing the quality of my sleep has declined. I can't sleep in anymore. Sometimes I'm waking up in the middle of the night occasionally and something I'm wide awake because I'm thinking about work or something like that. Very frustrating. Another reminder to try to pull myself away from the screens late at night.

Moving my phone from beside my bed to across the room dramatically improved my sleep quality.

Re: Insomnia, but not lack of sleep, may hasten brain shrinkage: study

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I sometimes wonder what damage 20 years of undiagnosed sleep apnea has caused. My sleep report showed 50 incidents of breathing issue per hour on average. I finally got a CPAP and it has literally made a world of difference to my life. Now I hear my toddler snore and hope that he doesn’t have it. At least, I can intervene early.

How’s the noise? Do you have a partner? I do day and night apnea and love to try a CPAP but my partner needs a quiet room to sleep. What features/specificities should one consider to choose a model? Can I buy second hands, does some parts wear off? Maybe should get one for when she don’t sleep at home, I’d love to feel rested at morning sometimes.

With the mask on, it’s like having a white noise machine at a volume of 3-4. My wife wasn’t getting enough sleep because of my snoring, so this white noise isn’t bothering her at all.

I went with the doctor prescribed one, through insurance and have a Resmed Airsense 11. Did not explore second hand and I don’t think you can buy one without a prescription. I Change the mask every 3-4 months, but you can extend it as long as you wash it every 3-4 days.

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