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Dropbox announces 20% global workforce reduction

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Re: Dropbox announces 20% global workforce reduction

#41

"As CEO, I take full responsibility for this decision" Oh hey another one that takes responsibility by taking on 0 consequences.

Genuine question: what do people want from a CEO in this situation?

What consequences do you want the CEO to face? A token reduction in pay? Being fired?

Re: Dropbox announces 20% global workforce reduction

#42
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Being sorry - check Takes full responsibility - check Layoffs are still there

how would you like the next CEO to handle it, for reference?

How about describing what exactly taking full responsibility means for them in that particular situation?

Saying e.g. what is the impact on the situation for those responsible might be nice - no bonuses for next year? A plan in place so that this doesn't happen again? Stepping down as a CEO?

I mean, if I take responsibility for e.g. wrong tax filing, I pay the fine penalty, and/or go to jail.

Saying "I take responsibility" some kind of failure while having no consequences for said failure is not taking responsibility.

Re: Dropbox announces 20% global workforce reduction

#43

"As CEO, I take full responsibility for this decision" Oh hey another one that takes responsibility by taking on 0 consequences.

Unpopular opinion, but I don't understand this type of comment. It sounds like people want executives to get some kind of punishment or pain as a consequence of laying people off.

But what would that even look like? A fine? That would probably make no practical difference, and would discourage them from making changes that need to be made. Fire them? Then you would probably get a worse decision maker in the driver seat going forward, who also didn't learn from experience of going through layoffs.

Layoffs are awful. They affect lives and families deeply. But all businesses don't go up and to the right forever. Reductions are a necessary part of running competitive companies.

Re: Dropbox announces 20% global workforce reduction

#44
TIL that nobody knows what they're doing.

Jokes aside, how do you end up having more than 500 excess people than what you need? What is management exactly doing during the time they went from 1 excess person to 500? Did they just hope the "macroeconomic headwinds" would become tailwinds? Didn't they at some point see that they have more people than valuable work, and maybe we should deal with that problem instead of hiring another team to place even more bets?

Actually, I know why. It's because they have too much money and when you have too much cash, you start splurging without thinking and then one day the chickens come home to roost.

Honestly, I would not hire a single manager from these big companies because they operate in an environment where they're playing with monopoly money and don't know what reality is. There's something to be said about spending within your limits and not splurging on the next shiny object. Way back when it was called cost control and operating within a budget. All that management theory seems to have been lost in the age of cash injections and valuations based on everything except retained earnings.

Re: Dropbox announces 20% global workforce reduction

#45

"As CEO, I take full responsibility for this decision" Oh hey another one that takes responsibility by taking on 0 consequences.

Genuine question: what do people want from a CEO in this situation? What consequences do you want the CEO to face? A token reduction in pay? Being fired?

Step down. Forfeit stock/options/golden parachute.

Re: Dropbox announces 20% global workforce reduction

#47
i wish they would focus on what the users wants instead of making their client more and more invasive, and when I complain about it just explaining that they have a lot of privacy controls and I shouldn’t worry about their invasive client.

i would love to use dropbox over icloud, but I just want a drive that works and a way to turn off all their weird features.

Re: Dropbox announces 20% global workforce reduction

#50

"As CEO, I take full responsibility for this decision" Oh hey another one that takes responsibility by taking on 0 consequences.

Genuine question: what do people want from a CEO in this situation? What consequences do you want the CEO to face? A token reduction in pay? Being fired?

The latter. If you can not manage the company correctly and it leads to the job losses of hundreds of people not to mention the millions in salary that was wasted by their poor planning then yes they should be immediately relieved and not allowed to run any other company. They are clearly incompetent.

Considering dropbox is not facing some economic recession outside of its control we can only blame the CEO's incompetence.

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