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Re: NotebookLlama: An open source version of NotebookLM

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Post by pmontra »

jrm4 wrote: post #23

Great to see this: Fellow tech-geeks, ignore the NotebookLM thing at your peril. NotebookLM, far and away, has been the "AI Killer App" for the VAST MAJORITY of bright-but-not-particularly-techy people I know. My 70ish parents and my 8 year old kid are both just blown away by this thing and can't stop playing with it. Edit: As someone pointed out below, I absolutely mean just the "podcast" thing.

I can understand why it's cool for a lot of people but it's the opposite of a time saver to me: they are a time loser, if that's a word. It's the same thing of those videos that serve a purpose only because some people (and developers) are not able to read or feel intimidated at walls of text. They are at a competitive disadvantage only partially mitigated by having videos for even the smallest text page.

Re: NotebookLlama: An open source version of NotebookLM

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Post by pmontra »

behnamoh wrote: post #18
danpalmer wrote: post #2

I'm not so sure this is an open source NotebookLM as it is a few experiments in an iPython notebook. What NotebookLM does at an LLM level is not particularly novel, it's the packaging as a product in a different way than what others are doing that I think is interesting. Also the "podcast" bit is really just an intro/overview of a large corpus, far more useful is being able to discuss that corpus with the bot and get…

> What NotebookLM does at an LLM level is not particularly novel, it's the packaging as a product... Disagreed. NLM is novel in how the two hosts interrupt and overlap each other. No other OSS solution does that, they just take turns talking.

But that's a bad habit and we tell people not to do it. So it's a novel but undesirable feature IMHO.

Re: NotebookLlama: An open source version of NotebookLM

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Post by giraffe_lady »

hitradostava wrote: post #40
dartos wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Idk if I’d call it a killer app. The podcasts are grating to listen to and usually only contain very surface information I could gain from a paper’s abstract. It’s a wildly impressive technical achievement though.

The point being made is that while this may be grating for you. It is magic for a large part of the population. This combined with chatgpt advanced voice mode shows a direction of travel for AI agents. It makes it possible to imagine a world where everyone has personalized tutors and that world isn't very far away.

At any given time there are millions of children who will fall for the coin behind the ears trick. It's magic to this large part of the population. That doesn't make it a technique I need to evaluate for my professional practice, because I'm not a clown.

Re: NotebookLlama: An open source version of NotebookLM

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Post by terhechte »

I tried to build something kind of like NotebookLM (personalized news podcasts) over the past months (https://www.tailoredpod.ai), but biggest issue is that the existing good TTS Apis are so expensive that a product such as NotebookLM is not really possible for a normal company that doesn't have internal access to Google's models. OpenAI has the cheapest / quality good enough TTS Api, but even then generating hours of audio for free is way too expensive.

Open Source TTS models are slowly catching up, but they still need beefy hardware (e.g. https://github.com/SWivid/F5-TTS)

Re: NotebookLlama: An open source version of NotebookLM

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Post by egnehots »

notpushkin wrote: post #35

This is in fact pretty explicitly not open source: https://github.com/meta-llama/llama-recipes/blob/d83d0ae7f5c... (And given there is no LICENSE file, I’m afraid you can only use this code as reference at best right now)

It might be a mistake since it's different from what's stated in their readme:

https://github.com/meta-llama/llama-models/blob/main/models/...

(which is referring to the license of Meta Llama 3.2)

Re: NotebookLlama: An open source version of NotebookLM

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Post by notpushkin »

egnehots wrote: post #46
notpushkin wrote: post #35

This is in fact pretty explicitly not open source: https://github.com/meta-llama/llama-recipes/blob/d83d0ae7f5c... (And given there is no LICENSE file, I’m afraid you can only use this code as reference at best right now)

It might be a mistake since it's different from what's stated in their readme: https://github.com/meta-llama/llama-models/blob/main/models/... (which is referring to the license of Meta Llama 3.2)

Oh, I see the links now, thanks! But they reference four different licenses, and those are the licenses just for model weights I think?

If the intention was to make something that you can only use with Llama models, stating that clearly in a separate code license file would be better IMO. (Of course, this would also mean that the code still isn’t open source.)

Re: NotebookLlama: An open source version of NotebookLM

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Post by globular-toast »

jrm4 wrote: post #23

Great to see this: Fellow tech-geeks, ignore the NotebookLM thing at your peril. NotebookLM, far and away, has been the "AI Killer App" for the VAST MAJORITY of bright-but-not-particularly-techy people I know. My 70ish parents and my 8 year old kid are both just blown away by this thing and can't stop playing with it. Edit: As someone pointed out below, I absolutely mean just the "podcast" thing.

I don't get it. Are you saying "bright but not particularly techy" people can't read? What would I be missing out on by ignoring this just like I do every other podcast? I've literally never heard of someone learning anything from a podcast except scattered knowledge from another field that will never be useful.

Re: NotebookLlama: An open source version of NotebookLM

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Post by creativenolo »

notpushkin wrote: post #35

This is in fact pretty explicitly not open source: https://github.com/meta-llama/llama-recipes/blob/d83d0ae7f5c... (And given there is no LICENSE file, I’m afraid you can only use this code as reference at best right now)

It doesn’t look that useful to use as it. But the approach there are investigating is clearly and well documented in plain text. Seems like a valid contribution to public knowledge to be grateful for, even if it can’t be use verbatim.

Re: NotebookLlama: An open source version of NotebookLM

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Post by notachatbot123 »

jrm4 wrote: post #23

Great to see this: Fellow tech-geeks, ignore the NotebookLM thing at your peril. NotebookLM, far and away, has been the "AI Killer App" for the VAST MAJORITY of bright-but-not-particularly-techy people I know. My 70ish parents and my 8 year old kid are both just blown away by this thing and can't stop playing with it. Edit: As someone pointed out below, I absolutely mean just the "podcast" thing.

Kaleidoscopes also offer mindless fun, I would rather suggest those.
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