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Inside the Transport for London cyberattack

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Re: Inside the Transport for London cyberattack

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Post by refulgentis »

jll29 wrote: post #21
Doctor_Fegg wrote: post #8

Slightly OT, but really good to see London Centric on the front page of HN. Britain's local media has basically collapsed in recent years - it's now owned by three conglomerates (Reach, Gannett/Newsquest, National World) who are completely uninterested in any form of journalism, only in the sort of clickbait that would have embarrassed even Buzzfeed in its 2012 pomp. The London Evening Standard was one of the last re…

Are people really no longer interested in what happens locally? I would pay for local news, even about places that I no longer live, but used to live and still have a passing interest in. But perhaps I would want to receive it as XML feed. Even events (concerts, readings, exhibitions, screenings etc.) are typically scattered across many smaller lists or mailing lists, depending on location. For example, there is way…

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Re: Inside the Transport for London cyberattack

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Post by eertami »

KaiserPro wrote: post #26
truckerbill wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point is it’s easier to just tax wealth a bit more and let everyone get on the bloody train… It’s mostly people just going to work/school, makes sense to be free

> easier to just tax wealth a bit more and let everyone get on the bloody train I mean its not. If it was, they would have done it. Wealth taxes are really fucking hard to do equitably, at least at first. For example OAPs tend to live in very expensive hosues. take rotherhithe for example one could have bought a house in the 90s for shit all, and now its worth the best part of 1.4 million. so now you're levying a 5%…

What do you mean "can't", this is exactly what already happens in countries that already implement a wealth tax (eg, Switzerland). If you own a corporation that has assets worth millions, then the corporation is the asset that you're paying wealth taxes on (as part of your personal tax return).

Doesn't matter if the company is based abroad either, you'll still need to supply the companies balance sheet as part of your personal tax return. Last time I checked, the Swiss economy (unsurprisingly) has not come crashing down.

Re: Inside the Transport for London cyberattack

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Post by fragmede »

ghusto wrote: post #34
bdndndndbve wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We need a housing policy reset, the OAPs shouldn't have the majority of their retirement assets tied up in a 1.4M illiquid house. They need an affordable off-ramp to downsize, and we need to build more affordable housing to deflate the market. This is wildly unpopular because lots of people are already over-leveraged trying to get onto the property ladder, but objectively it's the correct course to start to unfuck th…

Okay Mao.

> This is wildly unpopular.

Case in point. No one's suggesting confiscating anything, yet some people can't contain themselves at the suggestion that maybe housing policy is broken.

Re: Inside the Transport for London cyberattack

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Post by londoncentric »

Doctor_Fegg wrote: post #8

Slightly OT, but really good to see London Centric on the front page of HN. Britain's local media has basically collapsed in recent years - it's now owned by three conglomerates (Reach, Gannett/Newsquest, National World) who are completely uninterested in any form of journalism, only in the sort of clickbait that would have embarrassed even Buzzfeed in its 2012 pomp. The London Evening Standard was one of the last re…

Hey, Jim here, author of that article and long term HN reader. Never dreamed of seeing one of my pieces on the homepage!

Anyway, I’ve kinda bet the farm on making proper London coverage work, so every subscriber makes a massive difference. So please do give it a go, send any London tips you want investigating (my personal WhatsApp is on the site), and if you hate it… well please tell me why on the way out of the door.

Re: Inside the Transport for London cyberattack

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Post by akira2501 »

bdndndndbve wrote: post #6

It's amazing how much bureaucracy they're willing to spend money on to means-test a fundamental service. If you just made transit free at the point of service you wouldn't have free cards for all under 16, and some over 16, and all over 60, and discount fares for people in poverty. Cities spend so much money outsourcing the IT for fare collection, and the administration of budget programs, and ultimately the experien…

> can't stomach a poor person getting to ride the bus for free.

If you don't accurately measure ridership you can't accurately serve that ridership. You'll waste money on useless services and you'll waste peoples time by not creating necessary services.

The system needs to exist.

It probably doesn't need to be outsourced. We're well past the internet revolution and it's time for these core competencies to be reabsorbed by government departments. Or it's time for private companies to be held liable for their complete and total failures to serve the public.

Ideally it should just be a system that lets you scan your identification card or drivers license. If you're of the correct age it should serve as a transportation pass. Simple. Compliant. Captures useful data.

Re: Inside the Transport for London cyberattack

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Post by KaiserPro »

bdndndndbve wrote: post #32
KaiserPro wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> easier to just tax wealth a bit more and let everyone get on the bloody train I mean its not. If it was, they would have done it. Wealth taxes are really fucking hard to do equitably, at least at first. For example OAPs tend to live in very expensive hosues. take rotherhithe for example one could have bought a house in the 90s for shit all, and now its worth the best part of 1.4 million. so now you're levying a 5%…

We need a housing policy reset, the OAPs shouldn't have the majority of their retirement assets tied up in a 1.4M illiquid house. They need an affordable off-ramp to downsize, and we need to build more affordable housing to deflate the market. This is wildly unpopular because lots of people are already over-leveraged trying to get onto the property ladder, but objectively it's the correct course to start to unfuck th…

> more affordable housing to deflate the market

hard yes

> affordable off-ramp to downsize,

I mean yes, but the hidden cost is moving outside of your support network. Downsizing is often very lucrative.

Re: Inside the Transport for London cyberattack

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Post by jen20 »

paganel wrote: post #38
avianlyric wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TfL has built most of its fare collection systems in-house, indeed it licenses its fare collect technologies to other cities like New York. Also it’s not within TfLs or London Mayors gift to provide free transit, TfL is almost unique in that its costs are almost entirely covered by farebox collections, and they receive little to zero government subsidy. If London made transit free, they have to find an additional £7…

Take the 7 billion from the existing 37 billion and get rid of some existing stuff which is non-housing related.

Like what, exactly? Be specific.

Re: Inside the Transport for London cyberattack

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Post by jen20 »

com wrote: post #2

Lots of people who should have been establishing effective security practices and monitoring and improving it were doing … something … but not that. Total failure of management and governance at TfL and the British Library (which even had a “private sector security leader” on its board of governors for a decade or more before their total shitshow of a breach last year) But as usual, there will be no consequences.

TFL are better than most public bodies but are likely hamstrung on being able to pay anything like market rates for competent security people.

Re: Inside the Transport for London cyberattack

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Post by kergonath »

londoncentric wrote: post #44
Doctor_Fegg wrote: post #8

Slightly OT, but really good to see London Centric on the front page of HN. Britain's local media has basically collapsed in recent years - it's now owned by three conglomerates (Reach, Gannett/Newsquest, National World) who are completely uninterested in any form of journalism, only in the sort of clickbait that would have embarrassed even Buzzfeed in its 2012 pomp. The London Evening Standard was one of the last re…

Hey, Jim here, author of that article and long term HN reader. Never dreamed of seeing one of my pieces on the homepage! Anyway, I’ve kinda bet the farm on making proper London coverage work, so every subscriber makes a massive difference. So please do give it a go, send any London tips you want investigating (my personal WhatsApp is on the site), and if you hate it… well please tell me why on the way out of the door…

I just looked around your website and damn, I wish it was around when I was in London. Congratulations on putting that together, it’s a bold move. I’m not in London anymore so I can’t really justify a subscription, but I hope you’ll be successful.

We loved to take the piss but the Evening Standard at least existed and London deserves much more quality local journalism.

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