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Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Post by Spooky23 »

throwaway041207 wrote: post #36
thepasswordis wrote: post #18

Of all things my taxes go to, I would love it the United States Government would buy the patent for this drug and make it freely available to anybody who wants it. The number of things it apparently just cures is staggering.

I have been on compounded GLP-1 for a month, prior to this I was a highly functional alcoholic, basically starting drinking after work every night and going until I passed out. I've drunk well over 50 beers (probably more) a week for the last 20 years. I have not had a drink since going on it. I have been reading obsessively about this drug since going on it. I have been fortunate enough not to suffer side effects on…

Agreed. The constant cynicism about everything, framed by some stupid moral hazard nonsense, is exhausting.

It reminds me of the British reaction to the famine in Ireland - the good ministers were concerned about the moral health of the Irish. If they were provided with charity food, it would be a terrible tragedy if they became dependent. Just let them starve to death, with a clean soul.

Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Post by sandworm101 »

cthalupa wrote: post #32
mbostleman wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. I see all these breathless claims of new uses and how wonderful this drug is and wonder when the other shoe is going to drop.

I’ll make my usual response: we know that being obese is basically the worst possible thing you can do to yourself, and the longer you are, the worse it is. The side effects are going to be pretty awful just to negate that, much less all the other things they seem to be good for.

>> being obese is basically the worst possible thing you can do to yourself

Lol. I can think of dozens of worse things. Drinking. Cocaine addiction. Meth. Winding up in prison for some reason. Riding a motorcycle without a proper helmet. Getting into a plane flown by Harrison Ford. Even simple unprotected sex can lead to massive medical problems. Ever looked up the average life expectancy of professional athletes, especially the NFL? It isn't great.

Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Post by [deleted] »

throwaway041207 wrote: post #36
thepasswordis wrote: post #18

Of all things my taxes go to, I would love it the United States Government would buy the patent for this drug and make it freely available to anybody who wants it. The number of things it apparently just cures is staggering.

I have been on compounded GLP-1 for a month, prior to this I was a highly functional alcoholic, basically starting drinking after work every night and going until I passed out. I've drunk well over 50 beers (probably more) a week for the last 20 years. I have not had a drink since going on it. I have been reading obsessively about this drug since going on it. I have been fortunate enough not to suffer side effects on…

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Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Post by roody15 »

thepasswordis wrote: post #18

Of all things my taxes go to, I would love it the United States Government would buy the patent for this drug and make it freely available to anybody who wants it. The number of things it apparently just cures is staggering.

Hmm not quite. The bigger issue at hand is the large group of metabolic disorders linked to our unhealthy eating habits Alzheimer’s is now often referred to as Type 3 diabetes.

This drug in a nutshell partially paralyzes the stomach and upper intestine causing food to move through slowly. This has the effect of reducing food cravings as you literally stay full longer.

However slowing down the stomach muscles has many risks and many side effects.

Yes this drug is great for people who have struggled with weight loss and may not realistically be in a position to work on diet and exercise.

However this drug is not a substitute for the larger issue at hand. Many (possibly most) Americans are not living healthy lives in terms of mind, body (maybe spirit).

Improving physical activity leveled.. learning to eat less and to eat healthy should be a national priority. If anything the US government lack of addressing the elephant in the room and the underlying cause of many of these metabolic orders should outrage all Americans.

Just my two cents

Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Post by candiddevmike »

voidfunc wrote: post #19
thepasswordis wrote: post #18

Of all things my taxes go to, I would love it the United States Government would buy the patent for this drug and make it freely available to anybody who wants it. The number of things it apparently just cures is staggering.

Gonna be fun discovering what side effects it causes in 20 years tho.

Seems like you need to increase the usage of it as your body starts adapting to it and the weight loss plateaus. IMO, I think the hype around this drug is a bit much and I expect a significant number of users won't be able to meet or maintain their weight loss goals with it.

Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Post by keeganpoppen »

thepasswordis wrote: post #18

Of all things my taxes go to, I would love it the United States Government would buy the patent for this drug and make it freely available to anybody who wants it. The number of things it apparently just cures is staggering.

whoa that is a crazy, powerful idea. my favorite kind.

Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Post by throwup238 »

loeg wrote: post #30
thepasswordis wrote: post #18

Of all things my taxes go to, I would love it the United States Government would buy the patent for this drug and make it freely available to anybody who wants it. The number of things it apparently just cures is staggering.

Novo Nordisk's market cap is $500 B, mostly on the basis of GLP-1 drug profits, and the US' entire discretionary budget is $1,700 B. Even if Denmark would allow the sale, and even if somehow the US did not need to pay a premium to shareholders (typical in acquisitions), that would still be a very substantial expenditure.

Voting majority is also controlled by the Novo Nordisk Foundation. It's already the wealthiest foundation on the planet so they're unlikely to give up their flagship enterprise.

Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Post by keeganpoppen »

voidfunc wrote: post #19
thepasswordis wrote: post #18

Of all things my taxes go to, I would love it the United States Government would buy the patent for this drug and make it freely available to anybody who wants it. The number of things it apparently just cures is staggering.

Gonna be fun discovering what side effects it causes in 20 years tho.

it'd have to be pretty bad to outpace mortality for being obese

Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Post by keeganpoppen »

myprotegeai wrote: post #29
thepasswordis wrote: post #18

Of all things my taxes go to, I would love it the United States Government would buy the patent for this drug and make it freely available to anybody who wants it. The number of things it apparently just cures is staggering.

Yeah, what could go wrong with screwing with the neurochemical reward system of the entire population. Surely that will have no unintended side effects. It's literally a free lunch!

oh, so i guess you live outside and hunt animals for food? how's your all-natural neurochemical reward system?
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