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Microsoft Writing Off Nearly All of the $6.3 Billion it Paid For aQuantive

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Re: Microsoft Writing Off Nearly All of the $6.3 Billion it Paid For aQuantive

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Google owns mobile advertisement, as well as mobile search. They are in an excellent position for the future.

Really? Why aren't they making any money with it now then?

Because the entire industry is a shell game?

~Fundamentals, people, fundamentals.

[aka: if you really think that a producer of gadgets is worth more than most countries' GDP, then you're a fucking idiot. Apple et al is a shell game. ~$100 billion for toys. Not how humanity got to the moon]

Re: Microsoft Writing Off Nearly All of the $6.3 Billion it Paid For aQuantive

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Google owns mobile advertisement, as well as mobile search. They are in an excellent position for the future.

Really? Why aren't they making any money with it now then?

http://ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html

The level to which the user base has ignored this, and merely uses the down-vote button to incline their personal displeasure is hilarious.

If you don't want to be Digg / Reddit / Metafilter, then don't trust your monkey user base

Hint: I've never used a "down-vote" button, on any site, even in realms of rabid Libertarian Neo-Fascist thought-land.

Why? . . Because I'm not a fucking retard who thinks their personal opinion means that their self image as a 'special snowflake' is valid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo-wkv8gW6k

HN is seemingly full of idiots.

Re: Microsoft Writing Off Nearly All of the $6.3 Billion it Paid For aQuantive

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So, he doubled revenue over the last 10 years. They were already high to begin with, but lets see... http://ycharts.com/companies/MSFT/revenues#series=type:compa... Even more impressive: http://ycharts.com/companies/MSFT/revenues#series=type:compa... So, basically, Microsoft let its two main rivals close in at a tremendous pace. If I had Microsoft stock, I'd be rather disappointed.

Shareholders and long term investors (aka those who care most about management) look for long term stable growth in core businesses. Yes, you can argue that their performance compared to competitors has been dismal but MSFT is still a solid investment and has seen double digit growth rates for over 10 years - this is incredibly hard for a company this size. Most will argue that this good management. For example, look…

Well, my point was that throwing in a revenue chart of one company only is just not a way of explaining things. There are many reasons why you could want Ballmer to stay - as you say, a replacement could even do worse - but that chart alone is not one of them. Especially because in our growing industry, the growth roughly matches the growth of the market. It is certainly not "plenty of reasons". Hewlett Packard has similar revenue development with MSFT and still they are firing CEOs left and right.

Re: Microsoft Writing Off Nearly All of the $6.3 Billion it Paid For aQuantive

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[citation needed]

HN doesn't disappoint! Down-votes, and no-one can do due diligence. Push Singh He was named one of the "IEEE Intelligent Systems 10 to Watch," an award that honors young researchers in artificial intelligence. He planned to take a faculty position at the Media Lab this fall...There has been some public note of the similarity between the suicide of Push and that of another more renegade AI Researcher a couple months e…

What are you getting at? Just spell it out.

Re: Microsoft Writing Off Nearly All of the $6.3 Billion it Paid For aQuantive

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HN doesn't disappoint! Down-votes, and no-one can do due diligence. Push Singh He was named one of the "IEEE Intelligent Systems 10 to Watch," an award that honors young researchers in artificial intelligence. He planned to take a faculty position at the Media Lab this fall...There has been some public note of the similarity between the suicide of Push and that of another more renegade AI Researcher a couple months e…

What are you getting at? Just spell it out.

http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/16-02/ff_aimyst...

Interesting Story with weird personalities, but Google has nothing to do with it. They didn't even remotely work on something interesting for Google.

He Probably watched Antitrust too many times.

Re: Microsoft Writing Off Nearly All of the $6.3 Billion it Paid For aQuantive

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Microsoft bought aQuantive as a knee-jerk reaction to Google's acquisition of Doubleclick. It was comical at the time because - aQuantive's Atlas was a distant number 2 to Doubleclick's DART in terms of ad server market share - aQuantive had no plans to create an ad exchange, nor did their market share make that a credible possibility, and - Microsoft somehow paid twice as much for aQuantive as Google paid for Double…

> Microsoft bought aQuantive as a knee-jerk reaction to Google's acquisition of Doubleclick.

Sometimes blindly copying your competitor isn't the best idea.

Re: Microsoft Writing Off Nearly All of the $6.3 Billion it Paid For aQuantive

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Now do it for Skype.

Ok I'll bite. Skype isn't and won't be a bad investment. It is installed on most peoples computing devices(computer,mobile,tablet), it really doesn't have any good competitors(maybe google voice), it's used heavily in business world for conferencing, virtual numbers and internal comms, it has a nice technology stack which a few companies were eyeing (fb,google). Really it's amuch better investment then spending a bil…

I don't think that Google Voice is any kind of competitor to Skype because of its incredibly limited global availability.

Re: Microsoft Writing Off Nearly All of the $6.3 Billion it Paid For aQuantive

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What are you getting at? Just spell it out.

http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/16-02/ff_aimyst... Interesting Story with weird personalities, but Google has nothing to do with it. They didn't even remotely work on something interesting for Google. He Probably watched Antitrust too many times.

Thank you.

This isn't to say Google themselves had anything to do with this evil

I then quoted from Alice in Wonderland...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WANNqr-vcx0

~Chalk it up to an odd sense of humour: I'd bet this link was on HN when it was current ~ http://technosailor.com/2008/10/22/monetize-or-die/

(The derail was to do with how pontificating about speculative asset acquirements in hind-sight allows 20-20 vision, or rather, allows one to see through a glass darkly. Fact is that MS can eat $8 billion for breakfast, and should continue to do so.)

Oh, and I'd disagree that their work had nothing to do with what Google has done. Disagree strongly, but there we go. cough Cleverbot cough

Re: Microsoft Writing Off Nearly All of the $6.3 Billion it Paid For aQuantive

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What are you getting at? Just spell it out.

http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/16-02/ff_aimyst... Interesting Story with weird personalities, but Google has nothing to do with it. They didn't even remotely work on something interesting for Google. He Probably watched Antitrust too many times.

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