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Origin of 'Daemon' in Computing

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Re: Origin of 'Daemon' in Computing

#41

I knew the origin of daemon from high school Greek philosophy courses. At the time, I thought "when an I ever going to use this stuff in real life?" Then I got into computers.

I know, right? I used to read about the role of eunuchs in ancient royal courts, and I thought to myself, who does that anymore?

Re: Origin of 'Daemon' in Computing

#42

The *nix world is full of dark-but-fun terminology. Daemons run the system. New files get 666 (before the umask takes away unnecessary permissions). Parents kill their children before killing themselves. And sometimes you have to kill zombies.

Almost feels like a right of passage when you inevitably google something like "kill self" (in reference to killing the current process) and get a popup telling you about suicide resources.

Re: Origin of 'Daemon' in Computing

#43
post #37

Do you pronounce it as demon or like Matt Damon?

It should more properly be written as dæmon. The æ ("ash") character is usually pronounced more like "ee", as in encyclopædia. I've never heard anyone say "encycloPAYdia" :-)

because it's spelled encyclopedia

Re: Origin of 'Daemon' in Computing

#44

The *nix world is full of dark-but-fun terminology. Daemons run the system. New files get 666 (before the umask takes away unnecessary permissions). Parents kill their children before killing themselves. And sometimes you have to kill zombies.

Sometimes you have to kill orphans too!

Re: Origin of 'Daemon' in Computing

#45
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m in the Matt Damon camp. Always pronounced it that way, never really gave it much thought. Just seems “right” to me.

And now we can perhaps hash out whether the `lib` in `/usr/lib` is pronounced with a long or short 'i'. I hope I'm not the only one who pronounced it the first way with no real thought, and never noticed until I heard someone else say it with a long 'i' that that was obviously the logical pronunciation.

Surely the logical pronunciation is the way you'd pronounce it in library, so a long 'ai' rather than any kind of 'i'? Though I personally always use the short 'i'. I was going to justify that by saying it's the same as /usr/bin, but that's also short for binaries, so should also be an 'ai'.

Re: Origin of 'Daemon' in Computing

#46
post #3

Interestingly, Safari Reader View doesn't work on this page. Firefox's does. Alternatively, here's a readable mirror: https://ei.cs.vt.edu/%7Ehistory/Daemon.html And another: https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/7w7914/the_origin_of...

“Text of the site below because looking at that site hurt. A lot.” For fucking real!

Re: Origin of 'Daemon' in Computing

#47

The *nix world is full of dark-but-fun terminology. Daemons run the system. New files get 666 (before the umask takes away unnecessary permissions). Parents kill their children before killing themselves. And sometimes you have to kill zombies.

Almost feels like a right of passage when you inevitably google something like "kill self" (in reference to killing the current process) and get a popup telling you about suicide resources.

Or indeed a rite of passage

Re: Origin of 'Daemon' in Computing

#48
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It should more properly be written as dæmon. The æ ("ash") character is usually pronounced more like "ee", as in encyclopædia. I've never heard anyone say "encycloPAYdia" :-)

because it's spelled encyclopedia

US English spells it as encyclopedia, British English spells it as encyclopaedia.

Re: Origin of 'Daemon' in Computing

#49
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And now we can perhaps hash out whether the `lib` in `/usr/lib` is pronounced with a long or short 'i'. I hope I'm not the only one who pronounced it the first way with no real thought, and never noticed until I heard someone else say it with a long 'i' that that was obviously the logical pronunciation.

Surely the logical pronunciation is the way you'd pronounce it in library, so a long 'ai' rather than any kind of 'i'? Though I personally always use the short 'i'. I was going to justify that by saying it's the same as /usr/bin, but that's also short for binaries, so should also be an 'ai'.

I've been pronouncing it with the short 'i' for 30 years, but mainly, possibly only, in my head.

In 1998 I started a new job, and my boss pronounced "URL" as "earl". That threw me for a loop, had to fight my way through our first conversation before I figured out what he was saying.

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