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Re: Italy's Piracy Shield just blocked one of Google's CDN

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Post by dariosalvi78 »

troupo wrote: post #34
jazzyjackson wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The pirates lost, I know one other person besides me that collects movies to watch offline outside of subscription services. The legal actions against free streaming sites prevents any serious competitor to Netflix, Disney-Hulu etc, which are hugely valuable properties.

Pirates kinda lost when Netflix was more or less the only game in town. Now with 10+ streaming services gatekeeping their content piracy is likely to be back on the rise

Agreed. It's what brought me back to piracy. I can pay one or two subscriptions max and happy to do it, but if the content I'm looking for is not there guess where I go to? And I suppose that many others do the same. In addition, many streaming websites have content that disappear for no apparent reason, or have the content only in some countries etc.

Streaming has reduced the need for piracy a lot, and that's probably a good thing, but it hasn't made it completely obsolete, because of silly models that media companies still enforce.

Re: Italy's Piracy Shield just blocked one of Google's CDN

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Post by ruthmarx »

ben_w wrote: post #38
ruthmarx wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The pirates remain triumphant and unshakeable. Why? Because you can go to any number of torrent sites you want right now and download anything you want, and as long as it's not too obscure it will probably not take more than 10 or 2 minutes. Trying to shut down piracy is playing whack-a-mole with one hammer, 10,000 moles and 100,000,000 holes. > The legal actions against free streaming sites The only people using tho…

> The only people using those are people too scared or lacking in knowledge of how to download. That's most people. Also, most laws aren't perfectly enforced; part of the reason for disproportionately high penalties is to create that fear.

Well, there's a lot of opinion on the subject but personally I'm er much against disproportionately high penalties as a deterrent because it's comes at the cost of justice to the individual.

That aside though, there isn't any chance of stopping piracy with the way the current internet is. SO all they do is spend disproportionate amounts of money, i.e. throw that money down the drain, just to take down a website here and there, and maybe, comparatively rarely, get a few people thrown in jail here and there.

That isn't deterring anything, not remotely, so it just seems like revenge.

Re: Italy's Piracy Shield just blocked one of Google's CDN

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Post by izacus »

johnklos wrote: post #7

Companies like Google and Cloudflare just really don't care that they host malicious content and have stopped taking meaningful action to take down reported content. That they'd be blocked at some point is completely unsurprising. As it is, I have to explain to people regularly that clicking on "sponsored" links, or whatever Google calls them, doesn't work because we have to block "googleadservices.com" due to their…

Why do some of you so badly, sickly want companies like Google to be the police and block your content on their whim?

This site is full of proof they're biased and incompetent, why are you so prepared to give them rights that belong to governments?

Re: Italy's Piracy Shield just blocked one of Google's CDN

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Post by xanth »

ranger_danger wrote: post #5

Ironically from not-Italy: Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead Firefox detected a potential security threat and did not continue to mil04s43-in-f1.1e100.net Error code: SSL_ERROR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN

Likewise, here in aus on a FireFox 131.0.3

Re: Italy's Piracy Shield just blocked one of Google's CDN

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Post by throwaway48476 »

izacus wrote: post #43
johnklos wrote: post #7

Companies like Google and Cloudflare just really don't care that they host malicious content and have stopped taking meaningful action to take down reported content. That they'd be blocked at some point is completely unsurprising. As it is, I have to explain to people regularly that clicking on "sponsored" links, or whatever Google calls them, doesn't work because we have to block "googleadservices.com" due to their…

Why do some of you so badly, sickly want companies like Google to be the police and block your content on their whim? This site is full of proof they're biased and incompetent, why are you so prepared to give them rights that belong to governments?

There was once a time people were able to host their own content.

Re: Italy's Piracy Shield just blocked one of Google's CDN

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Post by behringer »

ruthmarx wrote: post #8
johnklos wrote: post #7

Companies like Google and Cloudflare just really don't care that they host malicious content and have stopped taking meaningful action to take down reported content. That they'd be blocked at some point is completely unsurprising. As it is, I have to explain to people regularly that clicking on "sponsored" links, or whatever Google calls them, doesn't work because we have to block "googleadservices.com" due to their…

> Companies like Google and Cloudflare just really don't care that they host malicious content and have stopped taking meaningful action to take down reported content. Honestly I find it incredibly silly companies are still sending out notices to take down copyrighted content. Give up already. The battle is lost and now it's purely a waste of time and money.

I get what you're saying but I don't think it's true at all. Except for my tech friends, literally nobody I know is aware of how to pirate content if it isn't on Google or YouTube.

Re: Italy's Piracy Shield just blocked one of Google's CDN

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Post by [deleted] »

ben_w wrote: post #38
ruthmarx wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The pirates remain triumphant and unshakeable. Why? Because you can go to any number of torrent sites you want right now and download anything you want, and as long as it's not too obscure it will probably not take more than 10 or 2 minutes. Trying to shut down piracy is playing whack-a-mole with one hammer, 10,000 moles and 100,000,000 holes. > The legal actions against free streaming sites The only people using tho…

> The only people using those are people too scared or lacking in knowledge of how to download. That's most people. Also, most laws aren't perfectly enforced; part of the reason for disproportionately high penalties is to create that fear.

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Re: Italy's Piracy Shield just blocked one of Google's CDN

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Post by smallnix »

ruthmarx wrote: post #36
LaundroMat wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's also a question of IP valuation. Media companies have IP as an asset on their books. Battling piracy is a means to defend the valuation they attach to that IP.

It's wasted money though. They're literally just losing more money on whatever money they think they lost due to piracy.

Depends on where you fight it.

Got it removed from most Google page 1's? -> probably worth it

Trying to take down all torrents? -> probably not worth it

Re: Italy's Piracy Shield just blocked one of Google's CDN

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Post by fulafel »

ranger_danger wrote: post #5

Ironically from not-Italy: Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead Firefox detected a potential security threat and did not continue to mil04s43-in-f1.1e100.net Error code: SSL_ERROR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN

The link is bad from a web browser POV so that's correct - it's using the DNS name from the ip address reverse lookup, but the web server cert there identifies to a different Google DNS name which would point to the same address. (But the point was to point to this CDN node and you can't really link to it on HN in any other way)

Re: Italy's Piracy Shield just blocked one of Google's CDN

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Post by str3wer »

devjab wrote: post #26
cynicalsecurity wrote: post #24

Why would Italy have anything called Piracy Shield? Is it located in the West or in China?

To combat illegal sports streaming and betting. On a deeper level it is to combat major crime organisations on a financial level. Italy actually has a lot of initiatives to do these things, though some obviously work better than others. One of the better is how every budget has to has through a government service, to tack illegal activities both internally and across borders. Many EU countries have various things lik…

there is no deeper level, they want to stop soccer streaming, simple as that.
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