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Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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Post by renegade-otter »

ryandrake wrote: post #10

I'm making some big assumptions about Adobe's product ideation process, but: This seems like the "right" way to approach developing AI products: Find a user need that can't easily be solved with traditional methods and algorithms, decide that AI is appropriate for that thing, and then build an AI system to solve it. Rather than what many BigTech companies are currently doing: "Wall Street says we need to 'Use AI Some…

I don't think it's a Big Tech problem. Big Tech can come up with moronic ideas and be fine because they have unlimited cash. It's the smaller companies that need to count pennies who decide to flush the money down the AI Boondoggle Toilet.

"But Google does it. If we do it, we will be like Google".

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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Post by tombert »

I spent so many hours trying to do rotations with a pirated copy of Flash as a kid, and I never really got the hang of it, and it always bothered me how deceptively hard rotation was; when I would show my parents my work, they would do their very best to try and act excited but I could tell that they weren't really impressed with the effort because it doesn't seem that hard, at least to a lot of people.

This makes me irrationally happy.

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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Post by mr_machine »

porphyra wrote: post #33

I find that Adobe is really pulling away from open source software with all this AI stuff. A few years ago it could be argued that GIMP, Inkscape, and Darktable could do almost everything that Photoshop, Illustrator, and Lightroom could, albeit with a jankier user interface. But now none of the open source software can compete with AI generative fill, AI denoising, and now AI rotation.

I was just thinking similarly. I don't need any of these AI features and I'm certainly not about to start giving Adobe money, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't jealous.

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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Post by RustySpottedCat »

porphyra wrote: post #33

I find that Adobe is really pulling away from open source software with all this AI stuff. A few years ago it could be argued that GIMP, Inkscape, and Darktable could do almost everything that Photoshop, Illustrator, and Lightroom could, albeit with a jankier user interface. But now none of the open source software can compete with AI generative fill, AI denoising, and now AI rotation.

Not yet, but I imagine soon they will. Closed source is moving to video and open source is catching up to static images with incredible pace. I won't be suprised if not only GIMP integrates something like a couple of general stable diffusion models but pirated copies of photoshop find a way to hook up a local generative model instead of the online stuff.

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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Post by alexashka »

People have been using 3D models for 2D graphics for at least a decade. 3D models rotate, by default.

This demo shows generating a 3D model from a simple 2D shape. It'll fall flat on its face trying to 3D model anything non-trivial which begs the question - who cares?

Also, you'll want to animate the 3D model - which this doesn't do, so you'll soon be back to your usual 3D toolkit anyway.

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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Post by pessimizer »

KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #21
mywacaday wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was going to write how this would be cool in a kids drawing app but the thought that they might never feel the need to draw something from a different angle. I wonder what other activities have been lost to time and technology.

Socrates was against the invention of writing because it meant people lost the skill to memorize and recite https://www.historyofinformation.com/detail.php?id=3439

It really has been destructive. He anticipated the day in which you could change people's memories by editing the internet.

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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Post by reaperducer »

renegade-otter wrote: post #41
ryandrake wrote: post #10

I'm making some big assumptions about Adobe's product ideation process, but: This seems like the "right" way to approach developing AI products: Find a user need that can't easily be solved with traditional methods and algorithms, decide that AI is appropriate for that thing, and then build an AI system to solve it. Rather than what many BigTech companies are currently doing: "Wall Street says we need to 'Use AI Some…

I don't think it's a Big Tech problem. Big Tech can come up with moronic ideas and be fine because they have unlimited cash. It's the smaller companies that need to count pennies who decide to flush the money down the AI Boondoggle Toilet. "But Google does it. If we do it, we will be like Google".

"But Google does it. If we do it, we will be like Google".

Were you in my meeting about 40 minutes ago? Because that's almost exactly what was said.

If the big tech companies wanted to be really evil, they could invent a nonsense tech that doesn't work, then watch as all the small upstart competitors bankrupt themselves to replicate it.

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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Post by fooker »

alexashka wrote: post #47

People have been using 3D models for 2D graphics for at least a decade. 3D models rotate, by default. This demo shows generating a 3D model from a simple 2D shape. It'll fall flat on its face trying to 3D model anything non-trivial which begs the question - who cares? Also, you'll want to animate the 3D model - which this doesn't do, so you'll soon be back to your usual 3D toolkit anyway.

The difference is that you don't need a 3D model for this.

You start with 2D vector graphics that is significantly easier to create.

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