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Re: Response to DHH

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Post by znpy »

minimaxir wrote: post #3

> Rails, finally some open source! Looks like ~943k lines of code, 143k from Basecamp org. Automattic publishes 6.58M lines of open source code, 6.9x more than you. Yet, we’re “doing open source dirty”? Wait, did he just use lines of code as a success metric unironically?

> Wait, did he just use lines of code as a success metric unironically?

Not only that, he also compared php code to ruby code. Totally different languages.

I'm not even arguing which one is better or worse (i dislike them both) but for example ruby is way more expressive than php... You (usually) need less lines of ruby code than php code to do most things.

Clownish, clownish.

Re: Response to DHH

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Post by legitster »

pathartl wrote: post #34
legitster wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Counterpoint, nearly half of the internet uses WordPress. Learning that it's fully under the control of a vindictive techbro who is showing an ability and willingness to damage large swaths of the internet at a time is kinda a big deal.

The recent forking of Advanced Custom Fields is just a smoking gun for where his priorities actually lie. Matt is part of a small group of people who have made a significant amount of wealth from an open source project. The project itself, however, has stagnated over the past 10 years. The community's reliance on plugins like ACF is a complete failure of the development of core more than it is the tyranny of private…

It's clear to me now that the reason WordPress development has been stalled for so long is because Matt has been in charge this whole time and he has no idea what the development community actually wants/needs. So instead of in-housing a really basic tool like ACF he forces through garbage like Gutenberg.

Re: Response to DHH

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Post by unconed »

>David, perhaps it would be good to explore with a therapist or coach why you keep having these great ideas but cannot scale them beyond a handful of niche customers. I will give full credit and respect. 37signals inspired tons of what Automattic does! We’re now half a billion in revenue. Why are you still so small?

I'm just going to tell a little story here.

A long time ago, I worked on a recolorable Drupal theme, which was to be the new default look (Garland). It was completed and awaiting the next major release. Before that happened though, Matt Mullenweg grabbed the theme and the assets from our repo, ported it to Wordpress, and offered it as a theme on wp dot com to his customers.

When this was pointed out as being in extremely poor taste, he hid behind the GPL as the justification. WP was large enough already at the time that they could get away with stuff like this without suffering too much PR damage.

In short, if he's bragging about how much money he's making, it's because he has few scruples and doesn't actually care about credit and respect.

Re: Response to DHH

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Post by ChallengeEup237 »

legitster wrote: post #42
pathartl wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The recent forking of Advanced Custom Fields is just a smoking gun for where his priorities actually lie. Matt is part of a small group of people who have made a significant amount of wealth from an open source project. The project itself, however, has stagnated over the past 10 years. The community's reliance on plugins like ACF is a complete failure of the development of core more than it is the tyranny of private…

It's clear to me now that the reason WordPress development has been stalled for so long is because Matt has been in charge this whole time and he has no idea what the development community actually wants/needs. So instead of in-housing a really basic tool like ACF he forces through garbage like Gutenberg.

Matt has unfortunately been very unresponsive to any feedback about what should or should not go into core. Despite claiming WordPress core is open-source and open to almost everyone, the team leaders responsible for what goes into each release have been all Automattic employees since 2019.

Re: Response to DHH

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Post by ChallengeEup237 »

pier25 wrote: post #45
tock wrote: post #12

I don't even know how to describe this: https://x.com/ThePrimeagen/status/1845851330063028718

This is not related to the WP drama tho. https://casetext.com/case/attayeb-v-mullenweg

The actual lawsuits are available here to download, https://freewp.com/2024/10/14/matthew-charles-mullenweg-defe...

Re: Response to DHH

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Post by ChallengeEup237 »

legitster wrote: post #31
ankleturtle wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Matt made a post a few weeks ago about his charitable donations.[0] It's really just a "I'm better than them" post. And it doesn't say where any of it was donated. 0. https://ma.tt/2024/09/charitable-contributions/

That's exactly what I was referring to. For all we know these are self-dealing tax write-offs to his own foundation. The one that is currently doing dirty work for his private business.

The Foundation's public filings are online, and I think they only had $22k in donations last year. Doesn't mean his contributions were all charitable, but they don't appear to have gone to the Foundation at least.
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