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It's a Linux phone that runs Android apps, so they ostensibly don't have the problem of building the ecosystem.
Importantly though, it won't have Google Play and the increasingly mandatory GMS, so a lot of Android apps won't work properly. Definitely cool though and worthy of some attention.
Given the open issues at https://github.com/FuriLabs/issue-tracker/issues I think it's fair to say that whoever buys this is in for a bumpy ride. I mean, that is to be expected, however, I think they should be more honest about the current state, like for instance PostmarketOS does at https://postmarketos.org/state/
If SMS doesn't work, I have serious concerns about everything else...
One single integrated experience. I think everyone wants this. We have the technology we have the demand, it's just companies who make the high quality phones want to completely lock down the market.
You would think the free market would produce a company that would tackle this issue but barrier to entry is waay to high so essentially we have small companies trying to get into this space but they are only creating sub-par products because they can't make something as good as an iphone.
It's basically a legal monopoly. Companies can't get into it because the technology and capital required are way to high and only super mega corps like samsung and apple can pull it off...
Closest thing I've seen to this product I'm looking for is the steam deck. I would buy a steam deck phone if it had the quality of a pixel/iphone device.
Furi OS was what turned me away. Never heard of it and that makes me realise we don't have an android alternative OS which is permanent. Do we have any OS which is permanent? Shouldn't we have one?
FuriOS is a derivate of Droidian, which in turn is basically Debian with Halium support. So it's pretty much Debian + some custom patches for usability, hardware support, performance, so on. We intend to upstream as many of our changes as possible as time permits, but right now we are laser focused on improving the experience day in and day out.
Furi OS was what turned me away. Never heard of it and that makes me realise we don't have an android alternative OS which is permanent. Do we have any OS which is permanent? Shouldn't we have one?
FuriOS is a derivate of Droidian, which in turn is basically Debian with Halium support. So it's pretty much Debian + some custom patches for usability, hardware support, performance, so on. We intend to upstream as many of our changes as possible as time permits, but right now we are laser focused on improving the experience day in and day out.
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Why bother when you could pay HMD (aka "Nokia"), Foxconn, ASUS, etc to make a dramatically better phone with your logo and your OS on it?
Can you actually do this with the numbers Furilabs probably expects to hit? Surely there's a minimum number to order before the companies you mentioned will even take you serious.
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Importantly though, it won't have Google Play and the increasingly mandatory GMS, so a lot of Android apps won't work properly. Definitely cool though and worthy of some attention.
We do however ship with microG. I have heard of people using Uber, Spotify, Lyft, Signal, etc. So Android app support isn't that bad despite no GMS.
And yes I like many others here have been trying Linux phones for 10+ years, since N900.
Your phone just has to work, it can't crash because you get a call, or hide buttons because the UI is confused by orientation. IT MUST WORK. So that's why I wonder why people don't just use Android.
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FuriOS is a derivate of Droidian, which in turn is basically Debian with Halium support. So it's pretty much Debian + some custom patches for usability, hardware support, performance, so on. We intend to upstream as many of our changes as possible as time permits, but right now we are laser focused on improving the experience day in and day out.
Are all of your patches open source? Given enough time, could a user build a "factory image" of FuriOS from source?
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FuriOS is a derivate of Droidian, which in turn is basically Debian with Halium support. So it's pretty much Debian + some custom patches for usability, hardware support, performance, so on. We intend to upstream as many of our changes as possible as time permits, but right now we are laser focused on improving the experience day in and day out.
Hi, thanks for answering questions here. How do you handle device encryption?