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Gosub – An open-source browser engine
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Re: Gosub – An open-source browser engine
#42I'm confused. Why do you name it “go”-something when it is not implemented in Go... I have a more catchy name for you, Rub, which stands for route to unlimited browsing.
Re: Gosub – An open-source browser engine
#43As a BASIC programmer from the 1980s, thank you for that heart attack.
It's a great name!
Re: Gosub – An open-source browser engine
#44As a BASIC programmer from the 1980s, thank you for that heart attack.
They say BASIC programmers never die, the just GOSUB and never RETURN.
Re: Gosub – An open-source browser engine
#45I'm confused. Why do you name it “go”-something when it is not implemented in Go... I have a more catchy name for you, Rub, which stands for route to unlimited browsing.
"GOSUB" is the syntax used to call subroutines (functions) in BASIC:
Re: Gosub – An open-source browser engine
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
The various web specifications are insanely complex (e.g. navigables) so I can see how people burn out from it. To add onto that, a browser operates in an extremely hostile space security wise; to be a serious competitor, you'll need to be on top of your game in that regard which maybe Rust will help with.
Something very silly has happened, where the thing that most non-technical people have which is most exposed to hackers is also incredibly complex and requires high performance for some reason.
Yeah. I still hope at some stage we build something much simpler that maintains the same security boundary.
Like an application platform (forget documents) built entirely on wasm, and with capability based security. That would let you launch apps made within the platform just as easily as you currently open a website.
The platform would need some primitives for rendering, UI, accessibility and input handling. But hopefully a lot of those APIs could be much lower level than the web provides today. Move all the high level abstractions into library code that developers link into their wasm bundles. (For example, I’m thinking about most of what css does today.)
That would allow much faster innovation in layout engines and other things the web does today, and a smaller api surface area should lead to better security.
It’s quite possible to build something like this today. It’s just a lot of work.
Maybe when chatgpt is a bit smarter, it might be able to do the lion’s share of the work to make this happen.
Re: Gosub – An open-source browser engine
#47Why does it matter if it’s written in Rust?
Projects written in Rust tend to be very fast - as fast as C++ or C code - but without the endless security issues.
You may as well ask "why does it matter if this bridge is made of iron".
Re: Gosub – An open-source browser engine
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
The various web specifications are insanely complex (e.g. navigables) so I can see how people burn out from it. To add onto that, a browser operates in an extremely hostile space security wise; to be a serious competitor, you'll need to be on top of your game in that regard which maybe Rust will help with.
Something very silly has happened, where the thing that most non-technical people have which is most exposed to hackers is also incredibly complex and requires high performance for some reason.
Because the complexity and functionality of the modern (whatever the fuck this means) browser basically approaches one of the OS with all the consequences.
Re: Gosub – An open-source browser engine
#49Yes, but I'm concerned about the number of existing browser engines that have fallen by the wayside, as the project founders have become exhausted. The scope of such a project is incredibly easy to underestimate, and it has only ever gotten larger. Some examples: https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/124kphe/what_do_y...
Servo and Ladybird are more active than ever, each having fresh funding and ramping up focused development. Flow is a commercial project for embedded media devices (not just available on rpi, it actually came there later) and seems to be doing well? Sciter I don't know one way or the other about, it seems to have a few popular apps using it but I don't know if it died off since then or is just going strong. Netsurf h…
I wouldn’t call Sciter a browser engine. The CSS syntax is similar and some properties behave the same, but it doesn’t implement web standards by design.
Re: Gosub – An open-source browser engine
#50I'm confused. Why do you name it “go”-something when it is not implemented in Go... I have a more catchy name for you, Rub, which stands for route to unlimited browsing.
"GOSUB" is the syntax used to call subroutines (functions) in BASIC: http://retro-basic.com/manual/GOSUB.html
Thanks for the pointer. And it makes it doubly confusing. Doesn't a reference to an obsolete, pre-modern language tarnish the reputation of Rust? Doesn't the creator of this project fear lawsuits from the legal team at The Basic Foundation?