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Re: Cassie LaBelle: "eBay completely destroyed my life"

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Post by blkhawk »

abigail95 wrote: post #21
blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #19

Why is a pill press a problem? Are people not allowed the freedom and bodily autonomy to make pills for themselves?

it's regulated as part of the illicit drug supply chain. you can own a pill press just as you can a firearm, as long as you register it and follow the rules.

Cars, trousers and water are also part of that supply chain. The issue is that governments or rather politicians then to take moral panics as an opportunity to simulate activity to the people who elect them often choosing targets that cannot push back over actual utility. The argument is that regulating these kinds of "parts of the supply chain" is completely nonsensical and a waste of every-bodies time.

Re: Cassie LaBelle: "eBay completely destroyed my life"

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Post by acje »

vintagedave wrote: post #18
cranium wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, it's an antique pill press sold in August. That same listing was flagged three times by their bot because of policy around pill presses and molds, ending in a permaban.

That flag three times is also after it was delisted. So flagged once, and then flagged twice more after it was gone. Must have been enormously frustrating to remove a listing and keep getting warnings about the same, removed item. I can’t understand this from a data processing point of view. Surely the flag database tracks that an item was already flagged and removed, in order to avoid duplicates.

So it is just buggy cache invalidation? I guess eBay will eventually fix it.

Also the seller is perhaps at fault for not naming it wisely?

Cache invalidation and naming stuff..

Re: Cassie LaBelle: "eBay completely destroyed my life"

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Post by Animats »

yenwodyah wrote: post #31

So this is basically a result of the DEA forcing eBay to enforce a ban on pill presses for them? I hate how the government has basically been deputizing internet companies to enforce laws and regulations for them. If the DEA had done this themselves you could appeal it, ask your congressperson for help, or take them to court, but as long as their actions get laundered through a private company, the rights of the affe…

> So this is basically a result of the DEA forcing eBay to enforce a ban on pill presses for them?

Yes. See [1].

Owning a pill press is not currently illegal under Federal law, although some states restrict ownership. Selling one, though, requires registration with the DEA and reporting to whom it was sold. It's kind of like being a gun dealer.

[1] https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/ebay-pay-59-million-settle-co...

Re: Cassie LaBelle: "eBay completely destroyed my life"

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Post by benoau »

yenwodyah wrote: post #31

So this is basically a result of the DEA forcing eBay to enforce a ban on pill presses for them? I hate how the government has basically been deputizing internet companies to enforce laws and regulations for them. If the DEA had done this themselves you could appeal it, ask your congressperson for help, or take them to court, but as long as their actions get laundered through a private company, the rights of the affe…

I agree consumers should have better recourse - but its absence is just another way online platforms maximize their profit, and taxpayer-funded policing their platforms for them would only exacerbate that.

Re: Cassie LaBelle: "eBay completely destroyed my life"

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Post by UberFly »

tsak wrote: post #33

My eBay account of 20 years got cancelled because I followed their customer support's suggestion of opening a new one. And now I can't sell on eBay anymore: https://tsak.dev/posts/the-decision-is-final-and-we-cannot-r...

Ebay and Etsy are sounding like two peas in a pod.

Re: Cassie LaBelle: "eBay completely destroyed my life"

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

dawnerd wrote: post #7

https://xcancel.com/cassieceleste/status/1843702724090835178 Hopefully someone here will be able to get someone in corp to actually contact them. It's ridiculous for an account that has established history to just be wiped out like that.

Thank you so much for the nitter link, I didn't know that it still worked. I wasn't able to open the thread even in official 'X' app from Firefox android.

Re: Cassie LaBelle: "eBay completely destroyed my life"

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Post by yawpitch »

anigbrowl wrote: post #13
yawpitch wrote: post #8

[flagged]

Don't be a jerk. She suddenly has no way to pay her bills because her commercial partner fucked up and doesn't have anything resembling a real accountability process.

There’s a reply very near the top of the thread from eBay asking her to reach out in a DM for a resolution… her life isn’t destroyed by any measure, and no one fucked up, she shouldn’t have been selling an antique (or modern) pill press on that particular forum for very good and real accountability reasons.

Re: Cassie LaBelle: "eBay completely destroyed my life"

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Post by kkfx »

That's why anyone to be a Netizen not a slave must have a personal website on a personal domain, mirrored to some censor-resistant distributed networks and publish them with ready made instruction about how to use them and invite (for ecommerce) to buy directly from their own site, paying with domestic methods so to have domestic laws enforcement for easy act against any broker/banks bad behavior.

The member of WTO "tribunal" must be consider outlaws in any civil country as well, and people must know again the difference between what they own and what they have with limiting "rents", licenses and so on, and the difference between something PUBLIC and something private publicly open.

All this issues would be resolved.

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