Is there much research being performed into implantable health monitors?
Why would you want it implantable? I mean, I get why, but at the speed the tech evolves do you want to cut yourself up just to implant something that will be obsolete in a few years?
Oura Ring 4
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#43So, do I get any functionality if I just buy the ring, or do I _have to_ subscribe? I mean does the ring have any basic features that work without subscription, or do I pay monthly even for the basic features? If it's the latter it's a big no.
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#44I don't have to pay the monthly subscription - they had a deal where you could buy a third gen ring (at full price) and would get lifetime access without paying a monthly subscription. Despite that it still doesn't feel worth it to me to have yet another device I have to babysit (remember to sync with the app every day, remember to wear, remember to charge) and pay hundreds of $ to replace every 2-3 years. With the subscription cost, there's no way this product's value proposition makes sense for me.
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#45I really like the Oura, and have had a 2nd gen which works great for nearly 7 years- battery still going strong. However the 2nd gen had no monthly subscription fee, which I really hate... I am not sure if I would be willing to upgrade, as I have a huge aversion to subscription fees. Overall, I don't really like their software either- in my experience their 'sleep score' is in no way correlated with quality of sleep,…
If you wake up a lot at night and still feel tired in the morning... have you tried doing a sleep study? I believe that obstructive sleep apnea is severely under-diagnosed.
The newer Oura rings actually have an integrated pulse oximeter and can measure apnea, but mine does not.
I wonder if I should just buy a CPAP on my own and see if I feel better. I probably should also lower my bodyweight... I am a weight lifter, although fairly lean, I am a big guy, and losing some weight might reduce apnea events.
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Almost all of those are work-related or in specific activities like sailing. You are not gonna get degloved writing redux selectors or whatever.
> You are not gonna get degloved writing redux selectors or whatever. Right, just buy the fitness tracker and make sure to only wear it indoors while not performing physical activities.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
It looks like Oura at least writes to Apple Health [1], so there's some portability. [1] https://support.ouraring.com/hc/en-us/articles/360025438734-...
So instead of Oura owning your data, Oura _and_ Apple own it?
Apple Health data are only stored on your device unless you choose to synchronize them to iCloud, in which case they're e2e encrypted.
Apple does occasionally offer the option to contribute to research studies, in which case they'd have access to the relevant data but this is an explicit opt-in.
All the Apple Health data are also available through HealthKit APIs so that they can be used in other apps, including various export apps (though export is also a native feature). Use of this API requires an explicit app-specific and data category-specific opt-in from the user.
All this is to say: I don't think it's accurate to say Apple owns your data in this case. Apple likes to put themselves as privacy-first and you may disagree more generally whether they live up to their image but IMO this is one of the cases where they've done a pretty good job.
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#48I'd be curious to hear from Oura Ring fans what they find so useful about them beyond the initial period where you get to diagnose poor sleep patterns and maybe a low step count. What value do you get out of it long term?
The readiness / stress stuff is useful as well. Its better at picking up physical stress ( increased running volume, etc ) than mental stress, but its a useful feedback mechanism.
I'd love to be able to set alerts on specific measurements. Sometimes I feel like specific measurements are very predictive for me, but the rolled up score isn't as useful.
It's also able to tell if I'm getting sick a bit before I can tell.
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If you wake up a lot at night and still feel tired in the morning... have you tried doing a sleep study? I believe that obstructive sleep apnea is severely under-diagnosed.
Yes, I did a real sleep study and they said I do indeed have "mild" sleep apnea but it "isn't bad enough that we are willing to treat it." I do usually need several naps to get through a typical day- and that is after identifying and treating three other major health conditions that can cause fatigue. The newer Oura rings actually have an integrated pulse oximeter and can measure apnea, but mine does not. I wonder if…
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I was curious about getting one of these things, and your comment prompted me to find this - looks like it's totally possible to collect & interpret yourself: https://github.com/Pinta365/oura_api
That appears to be connecting to Oura's servers, collecting the data they choose to share. You are still at the whim of the company, who can turn off that data spigot any time it becomes expedient for them. There's no way to get the data off of the device and use it yourself, without the same data going to their servers. You pay hundreds of dollars for a device that doesn't let you use it, and rely on the kindness of…
I have spent my entire career messing around with APIs and platforms and I have no interest in doing this DIY. oAuth into Oura ring's servers, which is totally available to you, is just fine.
If privacy is this much of a concern, why wear a trackable wearable in the first place?