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No evidence social media time is correlated with teen mental health problems

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Re: No evidence social media time is correlated with teen mental health problems

#41

The APA has lost it's credibility some time ago with it's political stances. It doesn't take a researcher to see a correlation between phone time and youth issues.

It takes a professional to determine whether harassing them about their electronics is the actual cause of the behaviors in question.

Re: No evidence social media time is correlated with teen mental health problems

#42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, I think it also correlates with poor environmental and financial outlook on the future, more pressure to perform well in activities or academically, stricter rules around going outside and doing things on your own or friends without scrutiny, among other things.

Yes but then why would it impact girls far more than boys?

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Re: No evidence social media time is correlated with teen mental health problems

#43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, I think it also correlates with poor environmental and financial outlook on the future, more pressure to perform well in activities or academically, stricter rules around going outside and doing things on your own or friends without scrutiny, among other things.

Yes but then why would it impact girls far more than boys?

Different coping mechanism, boys will more often look for external causes.

Re: No evidence social media time is correlated with teen mental health problems

#44

The APA has lost it's credibility some time ago with it's political stances. It doesn't take a researcher to see a correlation between phone time and youth issues.

> The APA has lost it's credibility some time ago with it's political stances.

Ah, lost their credibility since 1960? Isn't there entire point of the APA "Council of Representatives" to issue policy statements on things like abortion, the rights of mentally ill, human trafficking and such?

I thought that was a big part of the entire purpose. What changed "some time ago"?

Re: No evidence social media time is correlated with teen mental health problems

#45

Skepticism is warranted here (as is the reminder that lack of evidence isn't definitive evidence against ), but I think the specific takeaway is interesting: social media use does not predict mental health problems in youth Which could indicate any number of things: - Social media use by itself doesn't predict mental health problems because kids without mental health problems also use social media. - Social media use…

Why is skepticism warranted? It's not an extraordinary claim by any stretch. The claim that social media does harm your mental health is the one that needs strong evidence supporting it. This reads like copium, you've set your priors all the way to "it's obviously true you can't convince me otherwise." Which then of course everything refuting it has to be literally air-tight, there's no way you hold that standard for other things.

I think the reasonable read for someone who's priors are set to believe it's true would be, "Interesting, I guess the effect size isn't as pronounced and obvious as I'd previously assumed."

Re: No evidence social media time is correlated with teen mental health problems

#47

The APA has lost it's credibility some time ago with it's political stances. It doesn't take a researcher to see a correlation between phone time and youth issues.

Interestingly, Skinner found that even pigeons can be superstitious. Just because you want to believe something doesn't mean it's true.

Re: No evidence social media time is correlated with teen mental health problems

#49

Jonathan Haidt, who's been driving a lot of the work against social media for kids, directly refutes these findings in this post https://www.afterbabel.com/p/fundamental-flaws-part-3 .

As a layperson who doesn't understand psychology but is interested in science and peace, I felt that Ferguson's article (this HN post) was much less directed at a person (as opposed to the person's work or theories put forward) and more professional, versus the linked blog post -- so I tend to believe the former.

Even a simple sentence like, "Ferguson did both of these things and his findings thus do not “undermine” our causal claims; he failed to accurately test our causal claims," comes across as scathing compared to the paper.

Re: No evidence social media time is correlated with teen mental health problems

#50

I don't want to sound unscientific, but when a paper is directly in conflict with what is obviously true, it's OK to use common sense.

Hint: "obviously true" and "common sense" are two very strong signals of "unscientific".

If it's "obviously true", then it should be easy to author your own paper that proves whatever is "obviously true". Or maybe reality isn't so easy?

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