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Anthropic hires OpenAI co-founder Durk Kingma

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Re: Anthropic hires OpenAI co-founder Durk Kingma

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Post by piva00 »

OutOfHere wrote: post #37

Anthropic is a joke of a company. They have all these heavyweight hires, but they make logins so difficult for the user that no chat user in their sane mind would want to use Anthropic. It's as if Anthropic doesn't actually want people using their service. They routinely keep logging me out, also always making me wait for an email confirmation code just to login every time, and it's sickening. They also promise API c…

I'm a chat user, hopefully with a sane mind, and their login process might be annoying but doesn't stop me from using it. I get logged out once every 2-4 weeks maybe?

Re: Anthropic hires OpenAI co-founder Durk Kingma

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Post by freejazz »

ygjb wrote: post #26
blitzar wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pivoting from "for all mankind" to "all for myself" would make me deeply uncomfortable, too. The change from one position to the other, not either position in any absolute sense, is the concerning part.

I think that the approach that Anthropic is taking to governance is a little different than "all for myself", it's worth having a read of https://www.anthropic.com/news/the-long-term-benefit-trust It sounds like they are least trying to build on the notion of being a public benefit corporation, and create a business that won't devolve into chart must go up and to the right each quarter . Time will tell of course, Ope…

Does anyone actually believe any of this horsesh*t?

Re: Anthropic hires OpenAI co-founder Durk Kingma

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kombine wrote: post #36

Can anybody suggest a good open source (GUI or terminal-based) app for chatting with Claude Sonnet for those who have API keys? I use those for a neovim plugin to chat given the context of codebase, but I would also like an ability to have a regular chat like in the web interface?

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Re: Anthropic hires OpenAI co-founder Durk Kingma

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Post by mathrawka »

kombine wrote: post #36

Can anybody suggest a good open source (GUI or terminal-based) app for chatting with Claude Sonnet for those who have API keys? I use those for a neovim plugin to chat given the context of codebase, but I would also like an ability to have a regular chat like in the web interface?

https://pypi.org/project/llm/

I use Open WebUI for when I want a website with some more features than a terminal provides.

Re: Anthropic hires OpenAI co-founder Durk Kingma

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Post by llamaimperative »

nurettin wrote: post #34
blitzar wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pivoting from "for all mankind" to "all for myself" would make me deeply uncomfortable, too. The change from one position to the other, not either position in any absolute sense, is the concerning part.

> Pivoting from "for all mankind" to "all for myself" Isn't the former already a red flag?

No it’s good to try to build tech that helps people. Doesn’t mean such declarations need to be taken at face value, but being baseline-cynical is generally unwarranted, undesirable, and uninteresting.

Re: Anthropic hires OpenAI co-founder Durk Kingma

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Post by supafastcoder »

modeless wrote: post #39

Kingma is most notable for writing one of the most cited papers in AI. Actually one of the most cited scientific papers ever published, right up there with the transformers paper if not higher. "Adam: A Method for Stochastic Optimization" https://arxiv.org/abs/1412.6980 I remain astonished that Adam continues to be the most widely used optimizer in AI 10 years later. So many contenders have failed to replace it.

I mean, there’s only so many ways to optimize a black box

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Post by llamaimperative »

OutOfHere wrote: post #40
rsstack wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The chat on the website is not their main product... They're selling access to their models to enterprises. As sickened as you are by having to log in to the chat, that's not an indication of their success at training and marketing high-quality models (the only real competition to OpenAI at this point).

> The chat on the website is not their main product Guess what: enterprises are made of people. People like to try things out. If people are not happy with something for their personal use, they most definitely are never going to recommend it to their employer. This is why OpenAI wins. It is in fact one of the factors that sets apart a hyper-successful product from a wannabe.

Literally every single person I know who’s building anything in AI (dozens of early stage founders) prefers Claude over GPT at this point.

The AI emperor will not be the one who has the most consumers logging into product.com to use the chatbot.

Compound this with OpenAI’s continuous shedding of, as far as I can tell, every credible researcher… I find your position quite hard to believe, even accounting for the hysterical tone.

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Post by LarsDu88 »

modeless wrote: post #39

Kingma is most notable for writing one of the most cited papers in AI. Actually one of the most cited scientific papers ever published, right up there with the transformers paper if not higher. "Adam: A Method for Stochastic Optimization" https://arxiv.org/abs/1412.6980 I remain astonished that Adam continues to be the most widely used optimizer in AI 10 years later. So many contenders have failed to replace it.

The number of papers that use it exceed the number of papers that cite it probably by 100x!

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Post by thelittleone »

scop wrote: post #10

As somebody new to Claude, can anybody give me tips for how to optimally use Claude as opposed to habits formed with ChatGPT? For example, my main concern is the limiting of messages over a given time period, even for paid accounts. I have often used ChatGPT for very specific questions/answers, but sending a large collection of "drill-down" follow up questions can burn through my Claude messages pretty quickly? Is it…

Highly recommend using the API with a good client. It's cheaper and limits are way higher. I rarely hit my limit which is just a billing limit I impose intentionally.
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