The comments sections have had the same vibe and usefulness as LinkedIn influencers and grifters for a couple of years now.
Product Hunt isn't dying, it's becoming gentrified
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Re: Product Hunt isn't dying, it's becoming gentrified
#42(I'm the CEO of Product Hunt) This isn't far off the mark, but I do want to push back on two things. One: "VC backed companies have the funds to be able to boost their launch on PH to guarantee their launch will be in the top 5." - absolutely not. We do not tolerate paying for votes or other means of artificially boosting score. Two: "its going to be a lot harder for you, the side hustler, the soloprenuer, the full t…
> We do not tolerate paying for votes or other means of artificially boosting score.
i have been recipient of many many many many many many DMs from startups asking for upvotes at 12.01am PT. this erased whatever respect i had left for PH. when you make this pointless is when i will pay attention to it again.
Re: Product Hunt isn't dying, it's becoming gentrified
#43The issue with not charging is spam. To avoid it, you need some kind of moderation mechanism or review system. Both of these have trade-offs which require some form of active management to avoid gaming, which isn't free.
Re: Product Hunt isn't dying, it's becoming gentrified
#44(I'm the CEO of Product Hunt) This isn't far off the mark, but I do want to push back on two things. One: "VC backed companies have the funds to be able to boost their launch on PH to guarantee their launch will be in the top 5." - absolutely not. We do not tolerate paying for votes or other means of artificially boosting score. Two: "its going to be a lot harder for you, the side hustler, the soloprenuer, the full t…
> We do not tolerate paying for votes or other means of artificially boosting score. i have been recipient of many many many many many many DMs from startups asking for upvotes at 12.01am PT. this erased whatever respect i had left for PH. when you make this pointless is when i will pay attention to it again.
As suggested in my comment below it should accumulate the launch posts for 24 hours then publish all in a big randomized list. Makes no sense that the time you post is a factor in the process.
Re: Product Hunt isn't dying, it's becoming gentrified
#45Product Hunt inherently cannot be """Gentrified"""". There are no limited resources and no real community to disrupt. There are no laws or systems that have been changed or weaponized to push out a marginalized group. Please choose a better analogy
Re: Product Hunt isn't dying, it's becoming gentrified
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t believe in the value of the Product Hunt “community”. The point of marketing is to get your product in front of customers, not to get it front of members of a community of deadbeat marketers who think they’re doing their job when they get their product in front of non-customers. If your product is “one weird trick” to get your product on the top of Product Hunt that’s appropriate for Product Hunt, but that’s…
> The point of marketing is to get your product in front of customers, not to get it front of members of a community of deadbeat marketers But what if the customers are deadbeat marketers?
If they're not willing to put in the elbow grease I don't think most of them will want to spend much money.
Re: Product Hunt isn't dying, it's becoming gentrified
#47(I'm the CEO of Product Hunt) This isn't far off the mark, but I do want to push back on two things. One: "VC backed companies have the funds to be able to boost their launch on PH to guarantee their launch will be in the top 5." - absolutely not. We do not tolerate paying for votes or other means of artificially boosting score. Two: "its going to be a lot harder for you, the side hustler, the soloprenuer, the full t…
How do you intend to handle the comments section? Currently, most of the comments are either blatantly AI generated or just some linkedin congratulatory feedback.
Most people value critical feedback and interesting discussions, that is the main reason why all of us visit HN every day.
Re: Product Hunt isn't dying, it's becoming gentrified
#48(I'm the CEO of Product Hunt) This isn't far off the mark, but I do want to push back on two things. One: "VC backed companies have the funds to be able to boost their launch on PH to guarantee their launch will be in the top 5." - absolutely not. We do not tolerate paying for votes or other means of artificially boosting score. Two: "its going to be a lot harder for you, the side hustler, the soloprenuer, the full t…
Thanks for the comment.
> We do not tolerate paying for votes or other means of artificially boosting score.
Let's be honest, posting a PH and getting top 5 has NOTHING to do with the product. It's all bots and politics.
As soon as I posted on PH, I kept getting spammed (via email, Twitter) of people offering to sell upvotes and guaranteed top spots.
My PH comment section started getting filled with bots (with almost identical comments) and also with people who were also launching and just wanted to have their name visible with the "LAUNCHING SOON" badge.
I reported the bot comments immediately, but I got no response: https://snipboard.io/fDzVXU.jpg
Overall my launch on PH went ok, I got some traffic, but almost all upvotes were from the communities I'm involved in, where I promoted my launch.
To get first, you simply need to have the largest community. The product doesn't really matter. It should be "InfluenceHunt" not "ProductHunt".
Re: Product Hunt isn't dying, it's becoming gentrified
#49(I'm the CEO of Product Hunt) This isn't far off the mark, but I do want to push back on two things. One: "VC backed companies have the funds to be able to boost their launch on PH to guarantee their launch will be in the top 5." - absolutely not. We do not tolerate paying for votes or other means of artificially boosting score. Two: "its going to be a lot harder for you, the side hustler, the soloprenuer, the full t…
Thank you for trying to take on this problem, it’s really bad though. I did a PH launch this summer resulting in a few hundred unique website views. Comments besides people I already knew were either bots or promotional. Lots of bounty hunters. Compare that to our HN post requiring no additional lift, which resulted in ~10k unique visitors, no bots, and great critical feedback we couldn’t get anywhere else. I do want…
Same exact experience. Was on the top of HN for a chunk of the day, saw a couple votes. Scanning the results above, it’s very clear there’s brigading, bots, and pay. Just look at the daily distribution.
Re: Product Hunt isn't dying, it's becoming gentrified
#50(I'm the CEO of Product Hunt) This isn't far off the mark, but I do want to push back on two things. One: "VC backed companies have the funds to be able to boost their launch on PH to guarantee their launch will be in the top 5." - absolutely not. We do not tolerate paying for votes or other means of artificially boosting score. Two: "its going to be a lot harder for you, the side hustler, the soloprenuer, the full t…
> We do not tolerate paying for votes or other means of artificially boosting score. i have been recipient of many many many many many many DMs from startups asking for upvotes at 12.01am PT. this erased whatever respect i had left for PH. when you make this pointless is when i will pay attention to it again.
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