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Google Cache is fully dead

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Re: Google Cache is fully dead

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Treat it like you do customer support and automate it. Or is that not allowed?

Do you actually want automated take-downs? Isn't that what people already complain the most about on YouTube?

It’s a cache; it was going to expire after a TTL anyway.

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Is anyone at Google even aware how much this hurts their brand? I received an email from Google today with the subject line "Meet the new Google TV Streamer (4K)" The sender was Google Chromecast. Apparently it's some sort of streaming hardware they are selling for £99. I won't even consider buying one. How long until it's an obsolete brick? And when it's a brick, what are the chances I can wipe it and install my own…

I have an original Chromecast and it still works, though pairing it with a new TV is a bit of a pain.

The new Google TV is more like a smart TV without the TV. It has apps you install. It's much more complex and not the same thing at all. I was disappointed.

But then again every company discontinues products. I don't see that as a breach of trust. It's making up a promise they never made and criticizing them for it.

Re: Google Cache is fully dead

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Is anyone at Google even aware how much this hurts their brand? I received an email from Google today with the subject line "Meet the new Google TV Streamer (4K)" The sender was Google Chromecast. Apparently it's some sort of streaming hardware they are selling for £99. I won't even consider buying one. How long until it's an obsolete brick? And when it's a brick, what are the chances I can wipe it and install my own…

I'm aware of Google's history of shutting down services... but... > And when it's a brick, what are the chances I can wipe it and install my own software on it? Probably zero. Will you have no trouble buying a Roku or Amazon Fire Stick though? Those are also paper weights once the company decides to stop supporting them - and I'm not aware of any consumer electronics that allows you to install your own software on it…

I think GP's point was specifically Google's famous history of starting projects and then shutting them down within a few years. Old Rokus still work. My Roku 3600 is eight years old.

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Nowadays my browser's home page is one of the LLMs. It's easier to get knowledge with an AI than the dead Internet to which Google contributed.

The internet may have declined but it's the LLM's that are finishing it off. I'm still unsure how exactly the LLM's get fed going forward, it's not like the world will remain static once most of the human written websites have shuttered.

Google gives priority to sponsored content, so it's guilty of the first damage to the search result quality that they started years ahead of LLMs. Then comes SEO ranking for which LLMs are now being used to game its algorithm, but this used to be done manually years before.

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> [Google Cache] was meant for helping people access pages when way back, you often couldn't depend on a page loading. These days, things have greatly improved. So, it was decided to retire it. I wish I knew what he's talking about - not only are sites disappearing left and right, but even those that remain will often change so quickly that your search term is nowhere to be found. My cynical guess: websites want Goog…

Google allowed sites to disable caching since forever. They could also serve the full content to Google's bots, Google publishes their IP ranges.

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You can still set your user-agent to Googlebot.

They check for client IP. True Googlebot always comes from 66.249.*.*

Yeah I was like "surely it can't be that easy." So I went to try, and no, surely it is not.

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> Then a couple of weeks ago, added [direct] links to the Wayback Machine

Hopefully they are also making substantial donations to the Internet Archive, since they will be directing a lot of traffic into it and basically using their infrastructure as a feature on their main product...

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Apparently they are collaborating but there are not much details [0]

[0] https://blog.archive.org/2024/09/11/new-feature-alert-access...

Re: Google Cache is fully dead

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Is anyone at Google even aware how much this hurts their brand? I received an email from Google today with the subject line "Meet the new Google TV Streamer (4K)" The sender was Google Chromecast. Apparently it's some sort of streaming hardware they are selling for £99. I won't even consider buying one. How long until it's an obsolete brick? And when it's a brick, what are the chances I can wipe it and install my own…

I don't buy google devices anymore except for Pixel phones. Everything else tends to be disappointing over time.

Re: Google Cache is fully dead

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Is anyone at Google even aware how much this hurts their brand? I received an email from Google today with the subject line "Meet the new Google TV Streamer (4K)" The sender was Google Chromecast. Apparently it's some sort of streaming hardware they are selling for £99. I won't even consider buying one. How long until it's an obsolete brick? And when it's a brick, what are the chances I can wipe it and install my own…

I think on Google announcement of discontinuing the original Chromecast they mentioned that Smart TVs are ubiquitous now, so this kinda doesn't speak well for their own Android TV like Chromecast 4 and forward being not discontinued too some time soon.
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