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Comedian John Mulaney brutally roasts SF techies at Dreamforce

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Post by kcplate »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #27
carabiner wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The liberals are conservative today and the conservatives are liberal. Old Republicans now support the Democratic party. I fully believe the R's are currently the counter culture and the liberals are staid defenders of "how things should be" like the housewives of the 1950s.

There are multiple axes to these things. US liberals are still progressive in that they want to push law and culture into new territory, and republicans are still conservative in that they resist change or want to go backwards. However, it is pretty clear to me that liberals are currently the dominant force in setting and policing culture and behavior. I think this is the the change you are thinking of between the la…

I wish people would stop using “liberal” to describe the left nowadays. The progressive left today is so far away from “liberal” both in the historic understanding and the classical definition of the term that it’s arguably flipped its meaning.

It’s a shame but it’s basically now just a term used to categorize anyone who basically aligns with the US Democratic Party. Beliefs behind liberalism be damned, it’s just a political affiliation now.

Re: Comedian John Mulaney brutally roasts SF techies at Dreamforce

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Post by s1artibartfast »

kcplate wrote: post #41
s1artibartfast wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are multiple axes to these things. US liberals are still progressive in that they want to push law and culture into new territory, and republicans are still conservative in that they resist change or want to go backwards. However, it is pretty clear to me that liberals are currently the dominant force in setting and policing culture and behavior. I think this is the the change you are thinking of between the la…

I wish people would stop using “liberal” to describe the left nowadays. The progressive left today is so far away from “liberal” both in the historic understanding and the classical definition of the term that it’s arguably flipped its meaning. It’s a shame but it’s basically now just a term used to categorize anyone who basically aligns with the US Democratic Party. Beliefs behind liberalism be damned, it’s just a p…

yeah, as someone who identifies with Classical liberalism, me too. I tried to fight the tide but it seemed like an uphill battle that spoiled any conversation from the start. The words Liberal and Left both start with the letter L, so I guess they are the same thing now.

Re: Comedian John Mulaney brutally roasts SF techies at Dreamforce

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Post by cholantesh »

dragonwriter wrote: post #40
cholantesh wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are arguing that the reactionary ethos is about broader distribution of power, this makes even less sense.

> If you are arguing that the reactionary ethos is about broader distribution of power No, I literally exactly said the opposite, that you have to misconceptualize "liberal" vs. "conservative" as about change v. stasis rather than distribution of power to mistake "reactionary" for "liberal" and "anti-reactionary coalition" for "conservative".

Sorry for misreading!

Re: Comedian John Mulaney brutally roasts SF techies at Dreamforce

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Post by latexr »

ineedaj0b wrote: post #21

John's a very good comedian and the tech scene deserves more! roasting 'liberal' tech workers is a good chance not getting invited back. And tech events pay well. when i messed around, the most fun were the Jewish clubs in Boca and really any Black club (if you're funny they laugh the hardest). Scotland was also a lot of fun. i got invited to teach an improv session at a large university on behalf of their group (wit…

> roasting 'liberal' tech workers is a good chance not getting invited back. And tech events pay well.

I’m sure he’s crying all the way to his next Netflix special. With the AI sentiment today, I wouldn’t be surprised if this roasting makes him more popular.

Re: Comedian John Mulaney brutally roasts SF techies at Dreamforce

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

ineedaj0b wrote: post #21

John's a very good comedian and the tech scene deserves more! roasting 'liberal' tech workers is a good chance not getting invited back. And tech events pay well. when i messed around, the most fun were the Jewish clubs in Boca and really any Black club (if you're funny they laugh the hardest). Scotland was also a lot of fun. i got invited to teach an improv session at a large university on behalf of their group (wit…

> roasting 'liberal' tech workers is a good chance not getting invited back. And tech events pay well.

Most of the tech workers I know laugh at such things, not everyone can’t handle a good roasting.

Re: Comedian John Mulaney brutally roasts SF techies at Dreamforce

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Post by rkhassen9 »

dole wrote: post #39
lupusreal wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but "fire is hot" isn't much of a joke.

Only if I’m the one on fire, then it’s relative.

I was there. It was so funny! Somehow the articles make it so serious and less funny. Being there in the room, it felt like it was needed. Like a relief valve for what people were thinking but not able to say. To laugh together…as a huge group makes community and in a sense some sort of catharsis. Healing perhaps.

Re: Comedian John Mulaney brutally roasts SF techies at Dreamforce

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Post by unsupp0rted »

tayo42 wrote: post #7
archildress wrote: post #2

I hope all the self proclaimed tech libertarians in the audience who hate so called "cancel culture" loved a little laugh at their expense. :)

It needs to be funny though, and the quotes in the article were a miss for me...

How could reading one-sentence snippets out of a standup comedian’s set inside a news article a few mornings later not retain the original humor?

Re: Comedian John Mulaney brutally roasts SF techies at Dreamforce

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Post by Lerc »

Is there any indication that this was poorly received? Some comments seem to be projecting that opinion.

Sounds like a comedian doing his job.

Without evidence to suggest That he gave a performance That wasn't expected or appreciated, is there a news story here?

Re: Comedian John Mulaney brutally roasts SF techies at Dreamforce

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Post by satvikpendem »

dragonwriter wrote: post #36
mc32 wrote: post #9

That was Awesome! *in Chris Farley* That has to be so much fun to get paid to roast and humiliate a group of people who think so much of themselves. Congratulations, John. I'm envious.

> That has to be so much fun to get paid to roast and humiliate a group of people who think so much of themselves. When they are making money hand over first and paying you to roast them, you aren't humiliating them, you are serving as a foil whose whole purpose is to reinforce their ego and sense of triumph against a world that doesn't get what they are doing.

Yeah, the proper analogy would be a king and his court jester. Ultimately the king has the jester to show others that they don't take themselves too seriously, but one should make no mistake as to which of the two are richer and more powerful.
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