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Reports of the death of dental cavities are greatly exaggerated

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Re: Reports of the death of dental cavities are greatly exaggerated

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What’s your evidence or rationale for the oil routine? Serious question, not trolling

Thousands of years of test of time stood with ayurveda. also validated with citations as experiments catch up https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5654187/

Thanks for sharing the article, will give it a read.

Re: Reports of the death of dental cavities are greatly exaggerated

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How is that your takeaway? Either you didn’t read the article, or you’re blatantly ignoring that we don’t understand the long term implications of having this bacteria in your mouth and gut microbiome. There may be no problems at all… but we don’t know. This is why FDA regulations exist. The product being sold in Prospera to skirt regulations should be a red flag anyway. I’m not saying that it can’t or won’t work. I’…

I googled and got multiple results that I couldn't tie with your comment. what do you reference with Prospers?

As referenced in the article, Próspera [0]. It’s a private city/private economic zone in Honduras. The NYT actually just released a great Sunday Read podcast on the city this weekend [1].

[0] https://www.prospera.co/en/visit

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/15/podcasts/the-daily/prospe...

Re: Reports of the death of dental cavities are greatly exaggerated

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It may still take us some time to reach that goal, but the good news is that we have an effective solution available right now: keeping good oral hygiene is known to prevent both caries and gum disease, and takes less than 10 minutes a day for the average person.

If you need more information, we recently developed a free website to get you started: https://lifelongsmiles.hk/

Re: Reports of the death of dental cavities are greatly exaggerated

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Wild, I first read about this twenty+ years ago, maybe thirty. Oragenics rang a bell, near some university in Florida?

Also, the New York Times magazine had a piece on the Prospera island in Central America last weekend, was interesting as well. Supposed to have fewer regulations but the previous government is trying to reclaim it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/28/magazine/prospera-hondura...

Re: Reports of the death of dental cavities are greatly exaggerated

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It may still take us some time to reach that goal, but the good news is that we have an effective solution available right now: keeping good oral hygiene is known to prevent both caries and gum disease, and takes less than 10 minutes a day for the average person. If you need more information, we recently developed a free website to get you started: https://lifelongsmiles.hk/

Your heart's in the right place, but these videos are hard to watch.

Re: Reports of the death of dental cavities are greatly exaggerated

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It may still take us some time to reach that goal, but the good news is that we have an effective solution available right now: keeping good oral hygiene is known to prevent both caries and gum disease, and takes less than 10 minutes a day for the average person. If you need more information, we recently developed a free website to get you started: https://lifelongsmiles.hk/

Your heart's in the right place, but these videos are hard to watch.

Which one? I was looking forward to some awkwardness but all I can find are tutorials on teeth hygiene.

Re: Reports of the death of dental cavities are greatly exaggerated

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Wow, the FDA is worse than useless. So much regulatory red tape. These guys had every single reasonable safeguard in place and the FDA kept putting requirement on top of requirement until literally no one would qualify for the study.

20-30 years later and humanity has had precisely zero benefit because of the FDA's simply absurd, technically impossible level of overcaution in this scenario.

It is incredible how much medical innovation is being held back because of these sort of politics. I hope the people that constantly cheer on more regulation or the FDA itself take a look at cases like this and hundreds of other similar cases where companies have simply given up on safe, promising approaches due to the regulatory red tape.

Re: Reports of the death of dental cavities are greatly exaggerated

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Wow, the FDA is worse than useless. So much regulatory red tape. These guys had every single reasonable safeguard in place and the FDA kept putting requirement on top of requirement until literally no one would qualify for the study. 20-30 years later and humanity has had precisely zero benefit because of the FDA's simply absurd, technically impossible level of overcaution in this scenario. It is incredible how much…

Sometimes red tape is good in situations that might affect a large part of the population. Remember the whole Thalidomide situation.

Re: Reports of the death of dental cavities are greatly exaggerated

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Wow, the FDA is worse than useless. So much regulatory red tape. These guys had every single reasonable safeguard in place and the FDA kept putting requirement on top of requirement until literally no one would qualify for the study. 20-30 years later and humanity has had precisely zero benefit because of the FDA's simply absurd, technically impossible level of overcaution in this scenario. It is incredible how much…

Sometimes red tape is good in situations that might affect a large part of the population. Remember the whole Thalidomide situation.

When red tape makes drug development and testing impossible, as it did here, the system has ceased to benefit humanity and is causing nothing but stagnation and long-term suffering (by virtue of holding back potentially life-improving or life-saving treatments.)

Enabling medical progress is far more important in the long term for our species (and to reduce suffering) than adding the umpteenth killswitch/safeguard for an ostensibly safe medicine.

But FDA regulators have no incentive in the positive direction, only in the negative direction. The more drugs they deny, the less likely they can be blamed if something goes wrong; the more requirements they add, the more secure their careers - humanity's medical progress be damned.

Re: Reports of the death of dental cavities are greatly exaggerated

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It seems like FDA restrictions on clinical trials have really shot us all in the foot by depriving us the opportunity to collect data on this bacteria before it was made available as a supplement. There is clearly a demand for this product and it seems quite likely that Hillman et al could have gotten a cohort together to conduct a trial if they hadn't been faced with such extreme restrictions on testing. Why is informed consent not sufficient for participation in a RCT?
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