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Linux market share approaching 4.5% for first time, could hit 5% by 1Q25

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Re: Linux market share approaching 4.5% for first time, could hit 5% by 1Q25

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Microsoft seems determined to push people away from Windows with its user-hostile tactics—built-in ads, constant nagging about Edge, and forced OneDrive backups. It's really soured my experience. I’m done with Windows personally. While I have to use Win11 at work, I won't use it anywhere I have a choice.

I imagine the moronic mass-bricking a few months back also forced people to move away from that eco-system.

Re: Linux market share approaching 4.5% for first time, could hit 5% by 1Q25

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Microsoft seems determined to push people away from Windows with its user-hostile tactics—built-in ads, constant nagging about Edge, and forced OneDrive backups. It's really soured my experience. I’m done with Windows personally. While I have to use Win11 at work, I won't use it anywhere I have a choice.

I finally made the switch earlier this year after realizing just how good Steam Proton is for gaming on Linux. Day-to-day computing on Linux is just so nice compared to Windows. It doesn't feel like I'm fighting with the OS anymore; the machine actually serves me now, instead of it constantly trying to undermine my intentions.

I grew up gaming on PCs. I still game regularly, and haven't used Windows for around ten years.

Anybody that wants to explore alternatives to Microsoft has every reason to do so, the software works about as well or better than running natively on Windows.

Re: Linux market share approaching 4.5% for first time, could hit 5% by 1Q25

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Statcounter's data is based off hits to a certain websites. Not unique hits but hits. It's really hard to see their data as worthwhile from my perspective.

This is already desktop stats, a market that isn't really growing. Then figure they're unlikely to be partnered with anyone like Facebook, Tiktok, or Discord, the sites that 90% of users spend most of their time on.

Think of the remaining internet they might have deals with, does that seem representative of users as a whole? Now add in that it's based on hits, with no reason to suspect they're effectively filtering out bots. I don't see the value of such data.

Re: Linux market share approaching 4.5% for first time, could hit 5% by 1Q25

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post #4

Microsoft seems determined to push people away from Windows with its user-hostile tactics—built-in ads, constant nagging about Edge, and forced OneDrive backups. It's really soured my experience. I’m done with Windows personally. While I have to use Win11 at work, I won't use it anywhere I have a choice.

For people who never use anything except macOS / Linux, I challenge you to install Windows and experience it for yourself. The entire OS is like surfing the internet without ad block on. The nags, the pop ups, the malware you can’t remove. It’s truly incredible how awful Windows is. They are just milking the aging demographic who still uses Windows and squeezing as many clicks out of them as they can before Windows i…

I've mostly used Mac for the past 15 ywars os so. I was in a situation where Windows wasn't really politically acceptable for work and Linux was still sort of a pain in the butt to get work done for someone who wasn't familiar. So I just bought a Mac for the first time. At this point, I'm not sure it matters but I'm not a gamer, ChromeOS is mostly oriented towards low-budget educational market, and I have no particular reason to run Linux.

Re: Linux market share approaching 4.5% for first time, could hit 5% by 1Q25

#46

Every time I see this, I refer to Krazam's brilliant video about LinuxCon Worldwide. https://youtu.be/nUsDk8wjRPs?si=KnSxBan1QV5WVwih

I love that video. It somehow captures the whole linux community in that 2 minute window (of course it lacks many discussion around systemd, native package managers vs snap or flatpak, wine compatibility, etc)

Re: Linux market share approaching 4.5% for first time, could hit 5% by 1Q25

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> its auto-update mechanism is better than the Mac’s. Wow, what can a Mac auto-update do that is worse than Windows blocking your screen for 10 minutes during a Powerpoint presentation because the OS is «updating itself». (The only auto-update I know to be worse than Windows is Telsa's, bricking your car in the middle of the road for 45 minutes if you missclick on the touchscreen in traffic)

And yet, my Windows machine somehow applies a simple heuristic to figure out my active times and always does the updates when I'm not typically using it. Of course, it means the machine has to be on during those times, but I've never had the update in the middle of the day problem you've described. At least not as long as Windows 10 has been around.

> when I'm not typically using it. Of course, it means the machine has to be on during those times

This “simple heuristic” only works if you let your computer on while not using it (why would you do that? Except to accommodate for a broken update mechanism…)

Re: Linux market share approaching 4.5% for first time, could hit 5% by 1Q25

#48
post #4

Microsoft seems determined to push people away from Windows with its user-hostile tactics—built-in ads, constant nagging about Edge, and forced OneDrive backups. It's really soured my experience. I’m done with Windows personally. While I have to use Win11 at work, I won't use it anywhere I have a choice.

> built-in ads, constant nagging about Edge, and forced OneDrive backups I must be using it wrong because I don't have any of those things.

It's a very common experience. You not seeing it does not invalidate this reality.

Re: Linux market share approaching 4.5% for first time, could hit 5% by 1Q25

#49

Statcounter's data is based off hits to a certain websites. Not unique hits but hits. It's really hard to see their data as worthwhile from my perspective. This is already desktop stats, a market that isn't really growing. Then figure they're unlikely to be partnered with anyone like Facebook, Tiktok, or Discord, the sites that 90% of users spend most of their time on. Think of the remaining internet they might have…

> filtering out bots

For all but the most advanced of bots, the only such filtering comes from something as simple as a user-agent or other maybe some other header fingerprinting. What percentage of bots even bother to switch from the default of "python-requests/2.25.0" so that they might be detectable as Linux?

Re: Linux market share approaching 4.5% for first time, could hit 5% by 1Q25

#50

how do they meausre this? I mean, is it counting distro hopping fresh installs? or simultanous concurrent running sessions (telemetry hell) ?

That's a good question. I have lots of desktop templates on proxmox for spinning up VMs every now and then. I think maybe a month of usage might count as a legitimate user
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