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Re: There's a place for everyone

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How many of these niches actually pay enough (or provide enough other benefits) to have a decent quality of life? I think that's the real limiting factor in "finding your niche".

The article doesn't say your niche has to be how you make a living. Consider, for example, the Breakup Whisperer.

Re: There's a place for everyone

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post #3

> every person has a purpose, nobody is superfluous or redundant. > That’s a tragedy not just for Nicky, but for the rest of us, too. There’s a hole in the ecosystem where Nicky should be: there’s a hospital she should be running, or seventh-graders she should be teaching, or pizzas she should be delivering underwater. Wherever that hole is, everything else will be a little off-balance until Nicky fills it. Some inte…

> Some interesting implications of this

Not really. The article only says persons who exist have a purpose. It does not say that persons who do not yet exist must be created because there is a purpose waiting for them.

Re: There's a place for everyone

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, there is a place for everyone. For some it might be prison but it is a place nonetheless. Everyone has the right to live. While psychopathy is relatively hard to treat it is worth noting that not all psychopaths are actively harming other people. They can also be functional and productive members of certain groups under the right circumstances. You might want to be more careful with stigmatizing a whole group of…

When you use the word "everyone", curious if you really mean it considering that set contains individuals like Adolf Hitler, Shiro Ishii, Josef Fritzl, etc?

I mean I do consider a world where Adolf Hitler would have just been a unremarkable painter and Shiro Ishi doing boring research possible.

Yes, sometimes you have to use force to keep people from harming themselves and others but I don't see how this is related to the topic. I reject any form capital punishment though obviously some situations require killing when a person can not be stopped otherwise.

Re: There's a place for everyone

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> every person has a purpose, nobody is superfluous or redundant.

It be much nicer to start this statement from the reverse. Instead of justifying everyone has a purpose for a society, how about a society justifying itself based on the premise that every person has a purpose (could just be consumerism for all I know but hey).

Re: There's a place for everyone

#45

Talking about purpose without mentioning spirituality is to me like talking about politics without mentioning wars : feels like a lot of the reasoning behind is missed, either by prudishness, ignorance or bigotry.

We would need to start by defining what spirituality is... For me it's a vague, meaningless word that people like to use without ever defining it. And it's meaning ehen5rhere is one. Is completly diffeent9from person to person... So for me utterly useless.

spirituality is just the modern word for religion. it's each person's deeper meaning to life beyond this material world, if there is one.

Re: There's a place for everyone

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post #11

I only skimmed but I don’t find this philosophy particularly interesting. The implication here is that everyone has one best place, but in reality there are many local maximums. The opportunity cost of traversing a valley for a slightly higher maximum may not be worth it. The post also conflates employment with happiness. Not having a paying job is a valid life choice. Stay at home parent is a completely valid niche.…

I'm not sure it conflates the niches with employment. Many of the examples given are specifically non-paying niches. (Starting with breakup-whisperer). Indeed for some percentage of people, employment is not fulfilling or satisfying. They turn to other activities to create significance in their lives. (Open Source software is pretty much built on this concept.) That said, I suspect the basic premise (everyone has a u…

It’s obviously false in the literal sense, since some number of people literally lack the capability to remain alive.

Not to mention the small fraction of adults that suffer serious brain damage and turn into vegetables.

Re: There's a place for everyone

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We would need to start by defining what spirituality is... For me it's a vague, meaningless word that people like to use without ever defining it. And it's meaning ehen5rhere is one. Is completly diffeent9from person to person... So for me utterly useless.

spirituality is just the modern word for religion. it's each person's deeper meaning to life beyond this material world, if there is one.

“Religion” heavily implies an institution, an organization of people, buildings, etc. spirituality typically means none of this. “Unorganized religion” perhaps?

Re: There's a place for everyone

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How many of these niches actually pay enough (or provide enough other benefits) to have a decent quality of life? I think that's the real limiting factor in "finding your niche".

That's a fair point. I kind of hate that the world has come to this. Everything needs to be justified through an economic lens. I wonder if life was easier in the past with regards to this.

Certainly not. These days, with the Internet, social assistance programs, ability to run i.e. a Patreon account to make money from your hobby... It might not be "easy", but it's certainly easier than in the past, where taking a break from your farm to paint some trees would mean a very hard year.

Re: There's a place for everyone

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, there is a place for everyone. For some it might be prison but it is a place nonetheless. Everyone has the right to live. While psychopathy is relatively hard to treat it is worth noting that not all psychopaths are actively harming other people. They can also be functional and productive members of certain groups under the right circumstances. You might want to be more careful with stigmatizing a whole group of…

When you use the word "everyone", curious if you really mean it considering that set contains individuals like Adolf Hitler, Shiro Ishii, Josef Fritzl, etc?

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Re: There's a place for everyone

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I prefer the completely opposite view: nobody is there with a special purpose, we are all trying to figure what the heck we should do. It seems less welcoming but if you haven't found your place, is it really helpful to be told "keep searching, somewhere the perfect job is waiting for you"?
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