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Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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Post by pennybanks »

arktos_ wrote: post #25
pennybanks wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

right but at least google will tell you. brave a lot more shady and just wont say anything or let you opt out. many examples in the past. imagine if they were anywhere near a quarter of googles size it wouldnt be pretty imo.

the only two browsers, Chrome and Brave

i mean theres really only 2 relevant ones and the other one is because its owned by the most popular phone manufacture and is the only option. ofc we can use anything we want but in terms of real world relevance. and i guess the other one is forced by the most popular OS.

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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Post by JohnFen »

That seems the obvious result of this sort of thing.

> Related Website Sets (RWS) is a way for a company to declare relationships among sites, so that browsers allow limited third-party cookie access for specific purposes.

So the website itself gets to declare other "blessed" domains that can bypass third party cookie blocks? Big websites are constantly looking for ways to abuse users by bypassing their attempts at protecting themselves. How would anyone think these sites can be trusted not to abuse this?

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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svieira wrote: post #5

> We conducted a user study with 30 Web users, recruited over social media, and presented them each with 20 pairs of websites. Website pairs were randomly selected from both the Related Website Sets list (i.e., sites Google designates as “related”, and so warranting reduced privacy protections), and the Tranco list of popular websites. Each user was presented with different pairs of websites, asked to view the sites,…

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Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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Post by rectang »

JonChesterfield wrote: post #16
cabbageicefruit wrote: post #11

Damn. If there was ever any doubt about why you should get off chrome, this seems to put an end to that.

Shed a tear for the Firefox that could have been

Firefox is still working great for me, and I intend to keep using it for the foreseeable future.

I don't know what it might take for people to migrate away from Chrome en masse, but the alternative is there.

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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Post by JohnFen »

JonChesterfield wrote: post #16
cabbageicefruit wrote: post #11

Damn. If there was ever any doubt about why you should get off chrome, this seems to put an end to that.

Shed a tear for the Firefox that could have been

I certainly do. That said, I struggle to find another browser that's any better and most are worse. So I accept Firefox as the lesser evil.

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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Post by Terr_ »

snowwrestler wrote: post #35
Yawrehto wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? That's odd. The typical zip code has a population of about ~9000. Dates of birth are about evenly distributed, so you'd still get about 24 people/birthday, or around 12 men or women per birthday per zip code.. I might be off by a fair amount in either direction, but I don't think I'd be twelve times off.

Dates of birth are not evenly distributed. To clarify: your date of birth includes the year. It’s more specific than your birthday, which we usually think of as just day & month.

Also, the difficulty of identifying someone probably looks like a power-law curve, meaning that most of the "total difficulty" is concentrated in a small group, the ~13% that can't be identified.

In other words, even if one person is extraordinarily tricky to find [0], their share of the total un-findable-ness does not diffuse outwards to help anybody else.

[0] http://tailsteak.com/archive.php?num=433

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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Post by kstrauser »

immibis wrote: post #48
knallfrosch wrote: post #40

I don't care because I use Firefox.

Firefox will either support this or your favorite websites won't work so you'll switch to Chrome so they do work.

Unlikely. Love 'em or hate 'em, Apple nudged most organizations to handle third party cookie blocking unless they wanted to completely lose iPhone users.

"If Google limited 3rd party cookies, we'd go out of business!", said the companies who have literally 0 Safari users.

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