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Final two communications from MH370 support controlled descent scenario (2021)

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Re: Final two communications from MH370 support controlled descent scenario (2021)

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There is a very good book by the french journalist Florence de Changy about MH370, which "solves" all the issues with most of the theories out there and proposes what really happened.

So far I've not come across a more sophisticated theory that still passes Occam's Razor.

Re: Final two communications from MH370 support controlled descent scenario (2021)

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The repeated references to "riddles" feels a bit strange (in regards to the captain's home flight simulator tracks). I'm not sure if it's a strange translation or ESL thing, but it just feels like a strange word choice, like this is the start of a Dan Brown book or something

I'm ESL myself but I feel such poetic language is at least somewhat appropriate for MH370, probably one of the greatest real-world mysteries of the 21st century, no?

Sure, in a news article or something, but it feels out of place in what seems to be a scientific paper

Re: Final two communications from MH370 support controlled descent scenario (2021)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm ESL myself but I feel such poetic language is at least somewhat appropriate for MH370, probably one of the greatest real-world mysteries of the 21st century, no?

Sure, in a news article or something, but it feels out of place in what seems to be a scientific paper

And yet, I'd say it's warranted; an entertaining read means more eyes on your paper. Second, the sciences have a reputation for being boring and dry, and efforts to reduce that are good (as long as the core is solid)

Re: Final two communications from MH370 support controlled descent scenario (2021)

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The more certain it seems that MH370 was a murder-suicide scenario, the less comfortable I am with the media's preoccupation with it. News reports about such events may contribute to copycats: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17750236/ > Airplane accident fatalities increase just after newspaper stories about murder and suicide D P Phillips. Science. 1978. > Abstract: Fatal crashes of private, business, and corporate-…

That's a bit of a conundrum; on the one side the families of the victims have a right to know, and having free press is a good thing. On the other, reporting on these things may lead to copycats.

Re: Final two communications from MH370 support controlled descent scenario (2021)

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post #41

There is a very good book by the french journalist Florence de Changy about MH370, which "solves" all the issues with most of the theories out there and proposes what really happened. So far I've not come across a more sophisticated theory that still passes Occam's Razor.

Summarized here: https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/insi...

TLDR conspiracy theory.

Re: Final two communications from MH370 support controlled descent scenario (2021)

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If the descent was controlled gliding, the passengers (at least some of them) should be alive upon landing, shouldn’t they? Where are they now? Which theory could explain the absolute silence?

It's possible for the pilot to depressurise the plane and use their dedicated oxygen system to breathe while everyone else on board will pass out after using their individual masks. Doing so will give them 60-90 minutes of extra air, the passengers' masks don't last that long.

What legitimate reason would a pilot have to depressurize a plane at altitude, incapacitating or killing the passengers? Just wondering if and if so why that system / function is available.

Re: Final two communications from MH370 support controlled descent scenario (2021)

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If the descent was controlled gliding, the passengers (at least some of them) should be alive upon landing, shouldn’t they? Where are they now? Which theory could explain the absolute silence?

Debris of the plane were recovered. The plane crashed.

No doubt, the question is whether it was a catastrophic crash, a glide down, or an attempted controlled landing; there's no way to land on water without some parts coming off. The brunt of the wreckage has never been found.

Re: Final two communications from MH370 support controlled descent scenario (2021)

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post #41

There is a very good book by the french journalist Florence de Changy about MH370, which "solves" all the issues with most of the theories out there and proposes what really happened. So far I've not come across a more sophisticated theory that still passes Occam's Razor.

US shooting down a civilian passenger liner because of hypothesized secret cargo headed for China, and successfully covering it up for 10 years doesn't sound like something that passes Occam's Razor at all -- sounds like the very opposite, in fact.

One should look for theories with less sophistication, not more.

Re: Final two communications from MH370 support controlled descent scenario (2021)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if all passengers were alive at the time of a water landing, getting out of a plane is tricky in the best of conditions. Getting out of a damaged, rapidly sinking plane is very hard or maybe impossible. Also, if you would get out of the plane, you are then in the middle of the indian ocean with just your life vest and the sharks. You get maybe 3 days, because the water is warm. And nobody will find you if they d…

When you get a sailing license, you learn that if a man goes overboard, it's best to be (at east) three. One goes overboard, one orders the other never to let the overboard man out of sight and to point with his arm outstretched in his direction, and the boatman uses the outstretched arm to the man overboard. It is impressive how quickly you lose sight of someone even in light waves.

This is absolutely correct, but is in part due to the complicated nature of getting a sailing vessel to a fixed location in the sea behind the current location of the boat and in such a manner that allows for the boat to be put directly into the wind at the right time to kill forward motion.

Re: Final two communications from MH370 support controlled descent scenario (2021)

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post #41

There is a very good book by the french journalist Florence de Changy about MH370, which "solves" all the issues with most of the theories out there and proposes what really happened. So far I've not come across a more sophisticated theory that still passes Occam's Razor.

Summarized here: https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/insi... TLDR conspiracy theory.

Deranged conspiracy theory.
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