"Donates"? A code base is a maintenance burden.
Yeah if this doesn't come with a substantial endowment it's not a donation.
So ...throwing it over the fence into the neighbor's yard, then?
Microsoft donates the Mono Project to the Wine team
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#42Never miss a good tax write-off.
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#43I feel like I’m missing some context here. Is this a “free as in take this puppy” situation? How do the wine developers benefit from this?
How has ’free as in puppies’ not reached its rightful place on the podium?
I'm not a dog person: a puppy would be a burden (financially and time-wise) and provide me barely any fun.
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#44> We want to recognize that the Mono Project was the first .NET implementation on Android, iOS, Linux, and other operating systems. Is this true? The pre-releases and version 1 of .Net came with the source for a reference implementation of the CLR that ran on Linux or BSD. I can't remember what license it had and I thought Mono was a separate project, but maybe Mono was based on it. Not that it matters now.
.Net Core 1.0 released in 2016 supports Linux yes.
Lagacy .Net never supported OSes other than Windows. Mono, released in 2004, was the first attempt to bring it to other OSes.
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#45I know it's a long-standing empirical truth that anyone involved with Mono is required to prefer doing just about anything besides thinking about or touching what's on the Mono project website, but this announcement really deserves to be put on page unto itself with a URL all its own, rather than shoehorned into an anonymous div on the Mono landing page and at the top of /news.
See https://simonwillison.net/2024/Jul/13/give-people-something-...>.
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#46.NET now runs on Linux and other platforms, so what is the purpose of maintaining Mono separately at this point?
Mono can run old .NET framework applications directly.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
How has ’free as in puppies’ not reached its rightful place on the podium?
I'm not a dog person: a puppy would be a burden (financially and time-wise) and provide me barely any fun.
I think that's the intended implication - that it's "free to a good home" - meaning any new owner takes on a lot of responsibility.
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah if this doesn't come with a substantial endowment it's not a donation.
So ...throwing it over the fence into the neighbor's yard, then?
More like going to the local library with a bunch of old books. It might be worth keeping them, but someone has to sort them out.
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#49I worked on Mono a lot back in the early 2000s (back in the SVN days before it moved to Git, even). This move makes a lot of sense. Things evolved a lot over the years. Mono's legacy goals, which are to be a portable CLR (.NET) runtime for platforms that Microsoft didn't care about, don't make much sense today. Mono made a lot of sense for running places where full .NET didn't, like in full AOT environments like on t…
Is there somewhere where someone new to the ecosystem can get a simple introduction to all of these different terms and which ones are still relevant today? I looked into .NET somewhat recently and came away with the apparently mistaken impression that Mono was how .NET did cross-platform. I guess I must have been reading old docs, but I'm pretty sure they were at least semi-official.
Is there good documentation somewhere for getting set up to develop with modern .NET on Linux?
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#50> We want to recognize that the Mono Project was the first .NET implementation on Android, iOS, Linux, and other operating systems. Is this true? The pre-releases and version 1 of .Net came with the source for a reference implementation of the CLR that ran on Linux or BSD. I can't remember what license it had and I thought Mono was a separate project, but maybe Mono was based on it. Not that it matters now.
You are thinking of Rotor. FWIW, I also feel as if Portable.NET--which was rebranded at some point to DotGNU when I think it was even donated to the FSF--had predated Mono in functioning?
The Mono website has an archive of an old mailing list post which at the time talks about even-older origin of the project. It is (of course) heavily biased for Mono, and hilariously gives me an awkward shout out ;P.