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In a leaked recording, AWS CEO tells most developers could stop coding soon
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#43In the last 100 years, software adoption went from non-existant to being used everywhere, so even through programmer productivity was increasing, we stil always needed more programmers. But maybe the growth of programmer productivity will be higher than the growth of software demand at some point?
If "programmer productivity" increases then I'll spend 90% of my time thinking and talking to domain experts instead of 80%. Being able to write executable software is not and never has been the problem. But, sure, if it ever becomes easy to write working software then you can expect programmer salaries to fall precipitously, at least to the level of nurses or any other occupation that requires training but essentially anyone can do.
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#44I have yet to see a significant increase in productivity from AI. I wonder where they are extrapolating from?
Depends on what you mean by significant. I’d say that at the very least I save 5-10min per hour using copilot when coding, and several times I’ve had tasks like “convert this untyped schema less json solution to a typed solution” which was basically solved immediately and entirely by copilot with one or two minor corrections. Also unit tests pretty much writes themselves these days.
Overall I would say that it’s not a revolution but definitely significant at this point. With and without copilot is as big a difference as coding in notepad vs an IDE when it comes to productivity gains for me.
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#45This is why 'leaders' should spend some time in the trenches, doing the job of those they 'lead', so that they have at least a basic understanding of the actual difficulties, limitations, possibilities, etc.
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#46I have yet to see a significant increase in productivity from AI. I wonder where they are extrapolating from?
Maybe they're extrapolating from people who did find a way to turn this new technology into a useful tool for themselves. That's the hacker way, after all.
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#47AWS CEO is just catching up now. Most developers have stopped coding since several years now and have been dancing around with JSON, yaml, helm charts, terraform and docker files.
They managed to code in text files instead of text files, the devils !
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#48I have yet to see a significant increase in productivity from AI. I wonder where they are extrapolating from?
I turned staff engineer a year and half ago, almost stopped developing, from time to time I have to, especially to take over tasks of people on summer vacation, having ChatGPT to help with small python scripts and GO apps was very helpful and time saving. I would not use it for full development tasks, but for small things is easy to understand what's wrong (and so far, there was always something wrong).
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#49I've got a tinfoil hat that says this AI hype cycle is ~20% no-kidding tech, and ~80% fig leaf for offloading expensive employees.
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#50Thing is that the new crop of LLM AI systems are far more suited to replace the vagueries and multiway interpretable and broadly generic outputs of positions like sales and marketing, and yes, management, than they are at replacement in engineering based environments where output and performance is highly specific, knowledge very fractal and volatile, and unforgiving in the slightest.
I' productively using LLM coding assistants daily, but if I had to choose between having to go with the unmodified LLM output of codebase or a marketing plan, it would not even be a question.