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Re: Zed AI

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am Cursor main, dont really have any burning pains that make me want to change tools but open to what I dont know. Zed vs Cursor review anyone?

Cursor is electron/vscode based. Zed uses a custom built rust UI and editor model that gives 120fps rendering. (Or was it 60fps)

It is really smooth on a Mac with ProMotion.

Re: Zed AI

#43

I just want a fast programmable text editor with a native GUI and good defaults. But that seems really tough to find, for some reason. Zed is so close, but I’d much rather see a focus on the “programmable” part and let the AI and collaboration features emerge later out of rich extensibility (i.e. as plugins, perhaps even paid plugins) than have them built-in behind a sign-in and unknown future pricing model.

There's two ways to make extensions to Zed, providing context for AI. In the post they show off making a Rust -> WASM based extension and also mention a server based model. There's also a third option -- Zed is open source. You don't have to use their auth, it just makes collaboration easy.

Re: Zed AI

#44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What it shows is that it can be done — in a limited way. Other people might not like those limits and chose to go a different way. I am not sure what's worth lamenting here.

Zed is trying to position itself as a next gen hackers editor. Text editing with lessons learned from the multitude of experiments in the space. A flagship feature that is online only and requires me to trust a third party is a deal breaker to many. For instance, my employer would not be pleased if I suddenly started sharing code with another. Take the AI out of the conversation: if you told your employer you shared…

Yeah but so is I sent a message to s random person about our business vs I sent a message to one of our suppliers

Re: Zed AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My immediate instinct was to agree with you whole-heartedly. Then I remembered that Copilot has an "Explain this" button that I never click. Maybe this is because I'm just not used to it, maybe the workflow isn't good enough, or maybe it's because I don't trust the model enough to summarize things correctly. I do agree that this is an area that could use improvement and I see a lot of utility there.

My issue is not explaining how the code work. My issue is understanding why the code exists at all. The default workflow is to follow the commit history until I don't get to where and when the code in it's current shape was introduced. Then trying reading the commit message that generally link to a ticket and then acquire from tribal knowledge of the team why it was done like that. If it is still necessary, what can…

I get the frustration with this workflow too. This is where having all of your issues in Git would be great, but alas no one wants to collaborate in ticket comments via Git commits...

Inevitably the issue tracker gets moved/replaced/deprecated, and so all of that context disappear into the void. The code however is eternal.

Re: Zed AI

#47
post #36

JetBrains ships a local, offline AI auto-complete in PyCharm. Sure it's limited, but it shows it can be done. It's a pity other companies aren't trying the same, especially this one that boasts about millisecond editing times. Edit: JetBrains, not IntelliJ. Auto-complete details - https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2024/04/04/full-line-code-co...

AI autocomplete is just a toy, it has been there since the begining of AI code and I find it pretty useless. I prefer making a proper prompt to get better answers. Also most of the time engineers (use AI to) modify existing codebases rather than making new code.

Google's systematic, quantitative evaluation of AI coding assistance tools disagrees with your personal and anecdotal findings (which agrees with many other similar studies):

https://research.google/blog/ai-in-software-engineering-at-g...

Re: Zed AI

#48

I just want a fast programmable text editor with a native GUI and good defaults. But that seems really tough to find, for some reason. Zed is so close, but I’d much rather see a focus on the “programmable” part and let the AI and collaboration features emerge later out of rich extensibility (i.e. as plugins, perhaps even paid plugins) than have them built-in behind a sign-in and unknown future pricing model.

Sublime Text is likely closer to what you're looking for.

Re: Zed AI

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post #36

JetBrains ships a local, offline AI auto-complete in PyCharm. Sure it's limited, but it shows it can be done. It's a pity other companies aren't trying the same, especially this one that boasts about millisecond editing times. Edit: JetBrains, not IntelliJ. Auto-complete details - https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2024/04/04/full-line-code-co...

AI autocomplete is just a toy, it has been there since the begining of AI code and I find it pretty useless. I prefer making a proper prompt to get better answers. Also most of the time engineers (use AI to) modify existing codebases rather than making new code.

What programming languages do you mostly work in?

I've been wondering if the benefits of AI-autocomplete are more material to people who work in languages like Python and JavaScript that are harder to provide IDE-based autocomplete for.

If you're a Java or TypeScript developer maybe the impact is reduced because you already have great autocomplete by default.

Re: Zed AI

#50

JetBrains ships a local, offline AI auto-complete in PyCharm. Sure it's limited, but it shows it can be done. It's a pity other companies aren't trying the same, especially this one that boasts about millisecond editing times. Edit: JetBrains, not IntelliJ. Auto-complete details - https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2024/04/04/full-line-code-co...

sure, but if it was good more people was use it
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