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Artificial intelligence is losing hype

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Re: Artificial intelligence is losing hype

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Post by danielmarkbruce »

djaouen wrote: post #26
h_tbob wrote: post #15

To be honest, I was surprised by ChatGPT. I didn’t think we were close. We are running out of textual data now to train on… so now they have switched to VIDEO. Geez now they can train on all the VIDEOS on the internet. And when they finally get bots working, they will have limitless streams of TACTILE data… Writing it off as the next fad seems fun. But to be honest, I was shocked by what openai did the first time. So…

How are you using AI to double your coding productivity? Are you using ChatGPT, or Claude, or GitHub Copilot? I am an AI-skeptic, so I am curious here. Thanks!

What does it mean to be a skeptic here? Have you tried ChatGPT? Copilot?

Re: Artificial intelligence is losing hype

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Post by danielmarkbruce »

MrVandemar wrote: post #27
h_tbob wrote: post #15

To be honest, I was surprised by ChatGPT. I didn’t think we were close. We are running out of textual data now to train on… so now they have switched to VIDEO. Geez now they can train on all the VIDEOS on the internet. And when they finally get bots working, they will have limitless streams of TACTILE data… Writing it off as the next fad seems fun. But to be honest, I was shocked by what openai did the first time. So…

> Seriously I am a 2x coder compared to what I was because of this. Isn't the energy consumption of this technology pretty catastrophic? Do you consider the issue of energy consumption so abstracted you don't worry about it? Do you do anything to offset your increased carbon emissions?

They certainly are not providing these services at less than electricity costs. So if you are spending $20 a month on it, they are spending less than that on electricity. It's very low compared to any person in the first world's energy spend.

Re: Artificial intelligence is losing hype

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Post by CooCooCaCha »

icholy wrote: post #23
h_tbob wrote: post #15

To be honest, I was surprised by ChatGPT. I didn’t think we were close. We are running out of textual data now to train on… so now they have switched to VIDEO. Geez now they can train on all the VIDEOS on the internet. And when they finally get bots working, they will have limitless streams of TACTILE data… Writing it off as the next fad seems fun. But to be honest, I was shocked by what openai did the first time. So…

> Seriously I am a 2x coder compared to what I was because of this. You probably shouldn't advertise that.

I am highly skeptical that a competent coder sees a 2x boost.

Re: Artificial intelligence is losing hype

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Post by langcss »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #4

I’m just surprised something nearly replaced google in my lifetime.

Google is now "a tool" not "the tool" for finding information. Perplexity and Phind do a good job and DDG is there for the privacy angle. In addition to LLMs just giving you the answer you need.

Re: Artificial intelligence is losing hype

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Post by djaouen »

danielmarkbruce wrote: post #41
djaouen wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are you using AI to double your coding productivity? Are you using ChatGPT, or Claude, or GitHub Copilot? I am an AI-skeptic, so I am curious here. Thanks!

What does it mean to be a skeptic here? Have you tried ChatGPT? Copilot?

Perhaps I should have said "AI hype-skeptic"? I am just not seeing the productivity gains that others claim ITT.

Re: Artificial intelligence is losing hype

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Post by keiferski »

It’s certainly possible that AI is being overhyped, and I think in some cases it definitely is - but being tired of hearing about it in no way correlates to its actual usefulness.

In other words, lot of people seem to think that human attention spans are what determine everything, but the technological cycles at work here are much much deeper.

Personally I have used Midjourney and ChatGPT in ways that will have huge impacts on many activities and industries. Denying that because of media trendiness about AI seems shortsighted.

Re: Artificial intelligence is losing hype

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

ianbutler wrote: post #7

This supposed “cycle” has been crazy it’s been about 1.5 years since gpt4 came out, which is really the first generally capable model. I think a lot of this “cycle” is media’s wishful thinking. Humans, especially humans in large bureaucracies, just don't move this quickly. Enterprises have barely had time to dip their toes in. For what it’s worth hype doesn’t mean sustainability anyway. If all the jokers go onto a ne…

I’ve been hearing about the AI bubble being about to pop for more than decade now. And then just a couple of years ago AI took a huge leap…so now another AI winter is even more likely?

Re: Artificial intelligence is losing hype

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Post by grogenaut »

MrVandemar wrote: post #27
h_tbob wrote: post #15

To be honest, I was surprised by ChatGPT. I didn’t think we were close. We are running out of textual data now to train on… so now they have switched to VIDEO. Geez now they can train on all the VIDEOS on the internet. And when they finally get bots working, they will have limitless streams of TACTILE data… Writing it off as the next fad seems fun. But to be honest, I was shocked by what openai did the first time. So…

> Seriously I am a 2x coder compared to what I was because of this. Isn't the energy consumption of this technology pretty catastrophic? Do you consider the issue of energy consumption so abstracted you don't worry about it? Do you do anything to offset your increased carbon emissions?

isn't the energy consumption of travel, driving, and shipping food to you pretty catastrophic? Do you consider the issue of energy consumption so abstracted you don't worry about it? Do you do anything to offset your increased carbon emissions?

Re: Artificial intelligence is losing hype

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Post by Mc91 »

djaouen wrote: post #26
h_tbob wrote: post #15

To be honest, I was surprised by ChatGPT. I didn’t think we were close. We are running out of textual data now to train on… so now they have switched to VIDEO. Geez now they can train on all the VIDEOS on the internet. And when they finally get bots working, they will have limitless streams of TACTILE data… Writing it off as the next fad seems fun. But to be honest, I was shocked by what openai did the first time. So…

How are you using AI to double your coding productivity? Are you using ChatGPT, or Claude, or GitHub Copilot? I am an AI-skeptic, so I am curious here. Thanks!

I don't use AI at work at all.

I pay for Leetcode, which usually gives editorial examples in Python and Java and such, and paste it into ChatGPT and say "translate this to a language I am more familiar with" (actually I have other programs that have been doing this for some language to language conversions for years, without AI). Then I say "make it more compact". Then again "make it more compact". So soon I have a big O(n) time, big O(1) space solution to Leetcode question #2718 or whatever in a language I am familiar with. Actually sometimes it becomes too compact and unreadable, and I back it up a little.

Sometimes it hallucinates, but it has been helpful. In the past I had problems with it, but not recently.

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