Apple doesn't necessarily making the best hardware or software, but they are definitely the best at branding and public relations.
I think their public relations recently has been abysmal.
Why?
"Us vs. Them" language shapes the Apple ecosystem narrative
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Re: "Us vs. Them" language shapes the Apple ecosystem narrative
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I don't want an X account, so X links are useless to me. I don't subscribe to subscriptions, so NYT links etc... useless to me. I block privacy-abusing domains... AlphaGoogle links etc are inaccessible. I won't disable my adblocker... many commercial sites linked here no good to me. No Chrome browser... many other sites here don't work. Maybe it's crazy to expect the net to contain interesting websites that don't hav…
>each link on HN would have a 'bad ux flag' button
Do they check the github for PRs? That might be worth learning Arc for.
Re: "Us vs. Them" language shapes the Apple ecosystem narrative
#43Apple doesn't necessarily making the best hardware or software, but they are definitely the best at branding and public relations.
This doesn't stand up to reality. You can't market your way into billions of sales over such a long period while a superior product exists at a lower price sold literally right next to it. You just can't hide the lack of signal for that long. The "iPhones are a status symbol" hasn't been true for a long time because everyone has them. They are the better software and hardware product full stop. Whether that makes the…
> You can't market your way into billions of sales over such a long period while a superior product exists at a lower price sold literally right next to it.
Of course you can! This is the point of marketing! You don't need to make the best product, you just need to make people think you make the best product (you can't skimp completely on quality). Apple has always been extremely good at that.
It's especially true for expensive gadgets that require familiarity, because 99% of people won't spend a lot of time and money testing each option. They will buy whatever seems to be best and stick with it.
Re: "Us vs. Them" language shapes the Apple ecosystem narrative
#44"Us vs Them" was an actual line in the movie "Pirates of Silicon Valley", which was about Apple and Microsoft in the 80s. The phrase in the movie was referring to Macintosh vs Apple II camps within the company.
Re: "Us vs. Them" language shapes the Apple ecosystem narrative
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Banning the media of an oligarch who supported book bans in public libraries would just sounds like karma to me.
Well, movies, music and video games have content rating, to the extent that a book that features tobacco use may be rated for certain audiences... For the sake of consistency, I would expect that a sexually explicit book would not be put in the hands of kids, same as we already do with other types of content such as music, movies and games. Now, there are books that should be banned. Like the Golden book of Chemistry…
Lots of harmless books were banned and curiously the Bible is exempted, but OK there's no problem and it's not censorship.
Re: "Us vs. Them" language shapes the Apple ecosystem narrative
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Yup. OP is deliberately comparing the language for the end users and the language for the developers for the purpose of a dubious conclusion.
To me it seems the very distinction is toxic. All users of a platform should be considered equal, not separated into developers and consumers. Creating your own apps for whatever an audience to use it (for yourself, for specific people you want or for everyone) should be considered a normal feature any user may use.
Tell that to my wife (:
Re: "Us vs. Them" language shapes the Apple ecosystem narrative
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> You can't market your way into billions of sales over such a long period while a superior product exists at a lower price sold literally right next to it. Microsoft's "Internet Explorer" would like a word with you...
That's actually a great example of my point. For a long time IE was the best game in town, that's where all those pixeley "Works Best in Internet Explorer" banners came from. They got a boost from being the default but the bigger boost was because it was free. You had to pay for Netscape and later on Firefox/Opera were about the same. It wasn't until a truly better browser showed up, Chrome, that IE was unseated and…
> You had to pay for Netscape
>> The "N" evaluation versions were identical to the commercial versions; the letter was intended as a reminder to people to pay for the browser once they felt they had tried it long enough and were satisfied with it.
>> This distinction was formally dropped within a year of the initial release, and the full version of the browser continued to be made available for free online, with boxed versions available on floppy disks (and later CDs) in stores along with a period of phone support.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netscape_Navigator#Origin
You _could_ pay for Netscape for a brief period of less than a year after initial release. You never _had_ to, and I was a user from some time in 1995, all the way through the Mozilla Application Suite, then later Phoenix / Firefox. I never paid a penny for the privilege.