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Epic Games Store and Fortnite Arrive on EU iPhones

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Re: Epic Games Store and Fortnite Arrive on EU iPhones

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Post by nolok »

Y_Y wrote: post #29
bornfreddy wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe the technical term for this is "Oops.".

"Oops, an inadvertent unavoidable accident meant we broke the functionality we didn't want but were forced to add!"

While some people are talking about whether this is a good or bad regulation, the reality is we've moved to another game entirely : whether or not Apple has to follow the law.

No matter what you think about the regulation, it's obvious Apple cannot in any way be allowed to win that one now.

At least in the common charger case it was an industry agreement not a law and they did it when the regulation came, this time it's much more serious.

Re: Epic Games Store and Fortnite Arrive on EU iPhones

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Post by cesarb »

npteljes wrote: post #22
fsflover wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Because the only competition is Android. It's not. Sent from my Librem 5.

This isn't a good faith argument. When considering competition for X, the alternative should do at least most of the things that X does. It's not realistic to expect a drop-in alternative, but the user, I think, can't be expected to turn their life around, just to use the alternative, either. If this would be the case, then a SIM-enabled Windows notebook would also be competition for the iPhone. If the offerings diff…

> If this would be the case, then a SIM-enabled Windows notebook would also be competition for the iPhone.

Can that SIM-enabled Windows notebook do phone calls using the cell operator network (that is, not over the Internet)? If not (that is, if it uses the SIM only for data), then it's not an iPhone competitor. The "smartphone" category (which is where all iPhone competitors reside) requires being both "smart" (that is, with PDA functionality) and being a "phone"; the Librem 5 (and, for instance, the Nokia N900) fits comfortably in that category.

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Post by dotancohen »

enricotal wrote: post #38

"Allow Markeplace from Epic Games" Wow.... This is a small step in installing an app, but a giant leap for digital freedom. I hope that non-UE citizens can achieve this goal by the end of the decade, not because it is easy, but because it is hard.

  > not because it is easy, but because it is hard.
Terrific reuse! Thank you.

Re: Epic Games Store and Fortnite Arrive on EU iPhones

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Post by RandomThoughts3 »

regnerba wrote: post #11
withinboredom wrote: post #6

Literally just downloaded it. Even if it contains spyware, the freedom to choose to install spyware deliberately is refreshing.

Serious question: if it’s so important to you why use an iPhone? Not trying to be sarcastic or negative, really just curious.

Performances are better? They like the UI? They really wanted a smartwatch and Apple makes the nicest? Their family uses iMessage? They have a Mac and enjoy the integration?

There are plenty of reasons to have an iPhone even if you deeply dislike the lack of sideloading and the AppStore.

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Post by kingsleyopara »

gary_0 wrote: post #21
nottorp wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, don't think so. Apple's current initiative shows they still don't understand gaming.

There are more Steam gamers on Linux than there are on MacOS (2.08% Linux vs. 1.37% Mac)[0]. Gaming is pretty dead on Macs. [0] https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Softw...

I question the accuracy of those statistics. I’m one of the few people who game on macOS and almost exclusively use Steam via CrossOver, so I wouldn’t be included in that 1.37%. The same was true before the Apple Silicon era when I used Boot Camp.

Re: Epic Games Store and Fortnite Arrive on EU iPhones

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Post by kameit00 »

SSLy wrote: post #20

NB: if you already have AltStore PAL, you can just install Epic apps from their storefront. Epic covers FUD fees that Apple levies from AltStore.

Another bonus if you use AltStore - you don't have to install an app from a company that defrauds children with in-app coin purchases to unlock stuff in their games... it's funny how Epic is now portrayed as 'the good guys'.

Re: Epic Games Store and Fortnite Arrive on EU iPhones

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Post by cesarb »

NekkoDroid wrote: post #35
nailer wrote: post #2

All I wanted to see was a single screenshot or video. Ars used to be such a wonderful site. Anyway: https://youtu.be/_6cmu0NuM3g

> Ars used to be such a wonderful site. One of the first times I visited it I was on mobile data with like 300mb high speed data left. After opening the page and reading the article I got the notification that I have no data left. I don't know if it was actually Ars that munched on my data or if it was something in the background suddenly doing that, but it didn't happen before. Ever since then my taste of the websit…

> I was on mobile data with like 300mb high speed data left. After opening the page and reading the article I got the notification that I have no data left.

That's the reason I configured uBlock Origin on my phone browser to disable both images and JavaScript. Text-only pages have a much lower chance of eating all the data, and if I really need JavaScript or images for a site, I can easily tell uBlock Origin to temporarily unblock them for that site.

Re: Epic Games Store and Fortnite Arrive on EU iPhones

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Post by viherjuuri »

nottorp wrote: post #42

Let's remember the other fact hidden behind this store of a free to play peddler: Due to governmental pressure, we have a chance to get a browser that can run uBlock Origin on iOS in the future...

I haven’t looked into the issue at all, so can you tell me what is wrong with the current content-blocking features in mobile safari that prevent ublock origin from working? AdGuard works fine, but that in itself doesn’t necessarily mean anything.

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Post by viherjuuri »

fsflover wrote: post #17
nottorp wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the only competition is Android. Apple is the least bad choice if we're talking quality of the user experience. Don't bother comparing specs on paper, use both. And that's even before we take into account that Android is run by an advertising company. Can't decide if it's sad or funny that Epic's greed clashed with Apple's greed and they ended up getting EU users a bit more freedom to decide what's run on the…

> Because the only competition is Android. It's not. Sent from my Librem 5.

I looked into what this is, and I don’t think I could use my mobile banking apps, my payment cards or software required for work on this. Otherwise I like the idea and I hope it will mature and become a real option one day.
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