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Can a product with "0g sugar" contain lactose?

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Re: Can a product with "0g sugar" contain lactose?

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Post by esperent »

sshine wrote: post #39
esperent wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Caffeine, taurine, b vitamins. Plus the placebo effect which is the only reason you get instant energy from any kind of energy drink. Even pure liquid sucrose takes at least 30 minutes to digest (aside from a negligible amount that's digested in the mouth. There's some interesting studies that show energy gain during a workout from just rinsing your mouth with an energy drink and not swallowing any. https://www.ncbi.…

I instantly wake up with my first sip of caffeine. I can believe it takes longer to get absorbed.

At least 30 minutes, apparently. Any effect you feel before that is placebo.

Which shouldn't be read as "not real". The placebo effect means that actual physiological changes are happening in your body, they have just been initiated by your PNI system rather than the the substance.

Re: Can a product with "0g sugar" contain lactose?

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Post by scotty79 »

relyks wrote: post #9

As someone who is also severely lactose intolerant, this is something you figure out through trial and error (or I should really say trial and extreme digestive system upset). Unless the food product is clear with mentioning "no lactose", you can only trust that product will contain a "minimum upper bounds of 500 milligrams of lactose per serving for products labeled “0g sugar”" and it could have that much as the aut…

Do lactase pills cause sugar spiking in diabetics? I think I've seen something like that in my lactose intolerant diabetic (tyle 2) family memeber.

Re: Can a product with "0g sugar" contain lactose?

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Post by jay_kyburz »

aulin wrote: post #13
unwind wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just as a counterpoint, in Europe the requirement is to specify nutrition data per 100 g of "usable" product. Some products are e.g. intended to be added to water before consumption, then the nutrition is for that final form, not for the concentrate that you actually buy. But it's really practical, it makes it dead easy to e.g. compare calories, sugar, fat and so on between e.g. milk and apple sauce (to take random e…

> in Europe the requirement is to specify nutrition data per 100 g of "usable" product Source? that doesn't seem true and seems prone to the same serving size tricks used in US. My experience it that nutritional values per 100g of product (actual raw product no matter what its final form is supposed to be) are always listed first. Then if you're supposed to mix it with water there can be e.g., optionally, a nutrition…

Same here in Australia. It's crazy that in the US you have to work out how big a "serving" is and do a bunch of math to work out how much sugar is in something.

Re: Can a product with "0g sugar" contain lactose?

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Post by _0ffh »

unwind wrote: post #5
brudgers wrote: post #2

Keep in mind that the FDA defines serving size: The term serving or serving size means an amount of food customarily consumed per eating occasion by persons 4 years of age or older which is expressed in a common household measure that is appropriate to the food. https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-21/chapter-I/subchapter-B... This means manufacturer's are free to make serving sizes based on how little a hypothetical f…

Just as a counterpoint, in Europe the requirement is to specify nutrition data per 100 g of "usable" product. Some products are e.g. intended to be added to water before consumption, then the nutrition is for that final form, not for the concentrate that you actually buy. But it's really practical, it makes it dead easy to e.g. compare calories, sugar, fat and so on between e.g. milk and apple sauce (to take random e…

No, "usable" product cannot be quite the correct expression. The macros per 100g of dry pasta are for the dry, not the cooked product. I'd venture to guess that few people eat their pasta dry.

Re: Can a product with "0g sugar" contain lactose?

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Post by gberger »

apeescape wrote: post #17
teo_zero wrote: post #10

Is buffalo mozzarella the cheese they eat in spaghetti westerns? :D

No, it's the mozzarella cheese made with Italian buffalo milk.

One would be quite concerned to learn they are eating cheese made from bufalo milk, as the custom is to make the cheese from bufala milk instead.

Re: Can a product with "0g sugar" contain lactose?

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Post by gibagger »

dudefeliciano wrote: post #34
relyks wrote: post #9

As someone who is also severely lactose intolerant, this is something you figure out through trial and error (or I should really say trial and extreme digestive system upset). Unless the food product is clear with mentioning "no lactose", you can only trust that product will contain a "minimum upper bounds of 500 milligrams of lactose per serving for products labeled “0g sugar”" and it could have that much as the aut…

> I basically take lactase enzyme pills everytime I have a dairy product. Sorry I'm not familiar with lactase enzyme or lactose intolerance, but wouldn't this be the reccomended usage? Or is it suggested to take the pills only when eating something with especially high lactose content?

AFAIK, lactose intolerance is a spectrum. I come from a country with spotty lactose tolerance so I've known multiple intolerant people. Just to give you an example:

I am mildly intolerant. I can have a small glass of whole milk with some discomfort, namely gas and bloated stomach. People who are highly intolerant would have a really, really bad time with the same amount with cramps, diarrhea and whatnot.

Re: Can a product with "0g sugar" contain lactose?

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Post by theGeatZhopa »

apeescape wrote: post #17
teo_zero wrote: post #10

Is buffalo mozzarella the cheese they eat in spaghetti westerns? :D

No, it's the mozzarella cheese made with Italian buffalo milk.

Important information:

2.59 Euro per 130g, or 4 euro per 100g - depends where you buy. The mozzarella made of cow milk is around per 80g 1.30 euro.

But the taste is worth it :)

Re: Can a product with "0g sugar" contain lactose?

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Post by tikkosam »

aulin wrote: post #32
esperent wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

~It's true.~ Edit: sorry I misread the previous comment. It's 100g "as sold". Not "as prepared". > All the information must be expressed per 100g or per 100ml. It may also, in addition, be expressed per portion or per consumption unit of the product. https://food.ec.europa.eu/safety/labelling-and-nutrition/foo...

That doesn't say anything. It just says it may be more convenient to express data per 100 ml if you have a liquid product. Can you cite the article where it says you can express nutritional data with respect to a final form of the product you mix yourself and not list the per 100g/100ml data? I'm still very skeptic but would be quite interesting if that was really allowed.

Anecdotally, I am used to seeing the prepared nutrition values for certain food types here in Norway (which is aligned with EU regulation through EEA). It is quite common, and not always acompanied by values for raw unprepared product.

Ive found mentions of it here: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A...

From Article 31: "Where appropriate, the information may relate to the food after preparation, provided that sufficiently detailed preparation instructions are given and the information relates to the food as prepared for consumption."

Re: Can a product with "0g sugar" contain lactose?

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Post by sushibowl »

dudefeliciano wrote: post #34
relyks wrote: post #9

As someone who is also severely lactose intolerant, this is something you figure out through trial and error (or I should really say trial and extreme digestive system upset). Unless the food product is clear with mentioning "no lactose", you can only trust that product will contain a "minimum upper bounds of 500 milligrams of lactose per serving for products labeled “0g sugar”" and it could have that much as the aut…

> I basically take lactase enzyme pills everytime I have a dairy product. Sorry I'm not familiar with lactase enzyme or lactose intolerance, but wouldn't this be the reccomended usage? Or is it suggested to take the pills only when eating something with especially high lactose content?

Usually on the bottle of lactase enzyme pills it will just say "take before consuming a lactose-containing product." But actual usage will really depend on the degree of lactose intolerance of the person. For example my wife is only mildly lactose intolerant: she can consume hard cheeses and many processed products containing dairy just fine, but soft cheese, milk, cream, etc. will give her digestive problems.

She mostly gets by simply avoiding these things, but she really really loves a good quality burrata so she will take an enzyme pill when she wants to indulge.

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