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Aalto Talk with Linus Torvalds

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Re: Aalto Talk with Linus Torvalds

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Post by jofer »

tikhonj wrote: post #20
dazzawazza wrote: post #5

It's a shame he doesn't go in to specifics, just saying "Fuck you" makes him look like a child, which I am sure he isn't. What is the problem?

I don't think that this would have been the right venue to go into an in-depth rant about Nvidia's lack of cooperation. That's certainly not what the audience was looking for and probably not what Linus wanted to go into; moreover, I doubt anybody from Nvidia was there or would even have heard the talk. The last point is somewhat ironic: if Linus had been reasonable and talked about Nvidia at length, Nvidia would pro…

Actually, there at least one Nvidia employee in the room. Have a look at the last question (asked by an Nvidia employee).

Re: Aalto Talk with Linus Torvalds

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Post by Intermediate »

CrazedGeek wrote: post #29
Intermediate wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is basically no nvidia drivers available for many modern mobile GPUs on Linux, so I doubt that Nvidia is more linux friendly than ATI/AMD nowadays.

Which GPUs? The only one I can find that they're not supporting yet is the GeForce GTX 680M.

Any that comes with Optimus. Nvidia's blob just don't see them.

Re: Aalto Talk with Linus Torvalds

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Post by sho_hn »

jofer wrote: post #41
tikhonj wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that this would have been the right venue to go into an in-depth rant about Nvidia's lack of cooperation. That's certainly not what the audience was looking for and probably not what Linus wanted to go into; moreover, I doubt anybody from Nvidia was there or would even have heard the talk. The last point is somewhat ironic: if Linus had been reasonable and talked about Nvidia at length, Nvidia would pro…

Actually, there at least one Nvidia employee in the room. Have a look at the last question (asked by an Nvidia employee).

Time index for the lazy?

Re: Aalto Talk with Linus Torvalds

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Post by karlshea »

sho_hn wrote: post #43
jofer wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, there at least one Nvidia employee in the room. Have a look at the last question (asked by an Nvidia employee).

Time index for the lazy?

The time link thing doesn't seem to be working for me, but it's at 1h29s

Re: Aalto Talk with Linus Torvalds

#48

Post by psykotic »

flabbergasted wrote: post #40
forrestthewoods wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The video in question (including the woman's question) require a lot of outside knowledge to understand. Maybe I'm missing critical information? Right now Nvidia Optimus technology work only on Windows 7. It doesn't even work for Windows Vista or Windows XP. Why should Nvidia devote resources, potentially a significant amount, to make Optimus work on Linux? I do not buy the argument that they should do so out of grat…

I think the real issue is that Nvidia is the most closed when it comes to releasing specs. With the proper specs, open source developers will produce better drivers than Nvidia.

> With the proper specs, open source developers will produce better drivers than Nvidia.

That may be true for specific features like Optimus--I can't say. But if you're talking about writing a full 3D driver stack for a modern GPU, you're almost certainly underestimating the effort involved by several orders of magnitude. NVIDIA has hundreds of full-time software engineers working on the various parts of the GPU driver stack. Now imagine doing it without the immense institutional knowledge.

Re: Aalto Talk with Linus Torvalds

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Post by jofer »

flabbergasted wrote: post #45
sho_hn wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Time index for the lazy?

http://youtu.be/MShbP3OpASA?t=1h28s

Linking to a specific time over 1 hour isn't working correctly for some reason, for whatever it's worth. (Or at least it hasn't been for me, anyway...)

Nevermind, we were both just doing it wrong. This should work:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MShbP3OpASA#t=1h28s

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