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Re: WD announces enterprise 128TB SSD

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Post by walterbell »

darksaints wrote: post #30
porphyra wrote: post #9

I really want a denser SSD to store my photo collection. My current small form factor PC has two NVME PCIe slots and no room for SATA drives. I have two 4 TB SSDs in there right now and it seems that consumer SSDs basically cap out at 4 TB. I would really love to get about 16 TB in my computer.

I'd love to find a M2-only NAS in a very low profile form factor. I live in a small apartment and prefer small electronics that can hide in a cabinet, but it seems like all of the NAS enclosures that I've ever seen recommended are fucking huge.

ODROID H4 Plus Intel N97 SBC (with in-band ECC) has an option for 4xM.2 via PCIe bifurcation, https://www.hardkernel.com/blog-2/new-m-2-card-for-the-odroi...

Re: WD announces enterprise 128TB SSD

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Post by throawayonthe »

darksaints wrote: post #30
porphyra wrote: post #9

I really want a denser SSD to store my photo collection. My current small form factor PC has two NVME PCIe slots and no room for SATA drives. I have two 4 TB SSDs in there right now and it seems that consumer SSDs basically cap out at 4 TB. I would really love to get about 16 TB in my computer.

I'd love to find a M2-only NAS in a very low profile form factor. I live in a small apartment and prefer small electronics that can hide in a cabinet, but it seems like all of the NAS enclosures that I've ever seen recommended are fucking huge.

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Re: WD announces enterprise 128TB SSD

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Post by pieresqi »

porphyra wrote: post #9

I really want a denser SSD to store my photo collection. My current small form factor PC has two NVME PCIe slots and no room for SATA drives. I have two 4 TB SSDs in there right now and it seems that consumer SSDs basically cap out at 4 TB. I would really love to get about 16 TB in my computer.

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Re: WD announces enterprise 128TB SSD

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Post by jandrewrogers »

markhahn wrote: post #34

how big is the market of people who have money to burn? or is it that some people mistakenly believe that bigger devices are more cost-effective? this part of the release is interesting: https://documents.westerndigital.com/content/dam/doc-library...

There are applications and workloads where storage density is a key consideration, and the set of data models isn't that small as a subset of the market. Networked storage is not a substitute for NVMe when working with very large storage volumes due to the poor storage bandwidth. For some workloads you also cannot substitute a single high-density server with multiple low-density servers for effectively the same reason (low bandwidth to remote storage). For these workloads, ultra-high density storage can definitely be cost effective within reason.

It bears keeping in mind that most popular open source software is not designed to be effective for storage densities anywhere near this high. If you are working with data at this density then you are likely using one of the closed source storage engines designed to work at this scale running straight off of the raw block device.

Re: WD announces enterprise 128TB SSD

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Post by CharlesW »

darksaints wrote: post #30
porphyra wrote: post #9

I really want a denser SSD to store my photo collection. My current small form factor PC has two NVME PCIe slots and no room for SATA drives. I have two 4 TB SSDs in there right now and it seems that consumer SSDs basically cap out at 4 TB. I would really love to get about 16 TB in my computer.

I'd love to find a M2-only NAS in a very low profile form factor. I live in a small apartment and prefer small electronics that can hide in a cabinet, but it seems like all of the NAS enclosures that I've ever seen recommended are fucking huge.

> I'd love to find a M2-only NAS in a very low profile form factor.

QNAP has at least two "NASbooks":

https://www.qnap.com/en-us/product/tbs-464 (2.5 GbE, USB 3.2)

https://www.qnap.com/en-us/product/tbs-h574tx (2.5/10 GbE, Thunderbolt 4)

Re: WD announces enterprise 128TB SSD

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Post by ksec »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #37
darksaints wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd love to find a M2-only NAS in a very low profile form factor. I live in a small apartment and prefer small electronics that can hide in a cabinet, but it seems like all of the NAS enclosures that I've ever seen recommended are fucking huge.

There’s a lot of really cool options in the replies here, but I think I’m at my limit on the number of tech hobbies I can manage. Really just waiting for a consumer grade Synology SSD NAS.

Exactly. It would have been great if I was still young and studying. I have seemingly infinite of time to fiddle around with things. Once you are working and have a family, most would really prefer to having something that simply work out of the box.

Unfortunately Synology have been moving towards Enterprise segment and completely forgot consumer.

Re: WD announces enterprise 128TB SSD

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Post by mmh0000 »

CommieBobDole wrote: post #24
porphyra wrote: post #9

I really want a denser SSD to store my photo collection. My current small form factor PC has two NVME PCIe slots and no room for SATA drives. I have two 4 TB SSDs in there right now and it seems that consumer SSDs basically cap out at 4 TB. I would really love to get about 16 TB in my computer.

I'm using these (Samsung 970 QVO) as the data drive in a couple of workstations right now. Not the fastest SSD for a number of reasons, but still a lot faster than a mechanical drive. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B089C3TZL9/ Oddly, these were ~$300 when I bought them at the end of 2023, but the price has now doubled.

>Oddly, these were ~$300 when I bought them at the end of 2023, but the price has now doubled.

The Camel agrees with you! I've just setup a price drop alert.

https://camelcamelcamel.com/product/B089C3TZL9

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Post by ksec »

CommieBobDole wrote: post #24
porphyra wrote: post #9

I really want a denser SSD to store my photo collection. My current small form factor PC has two NVME PCIe slots and no room for SATA drives. I have two 4 TB SSDs in there right now and it seems that consumer SSDs basically cap out at 4 TB. I would really love to get about 16 TB in my computer.

I'm using these (Samsung 970 QVO) as the data drive in a couple of workstations right now. Not the fastest SSD for a number of reasons, but still a lot faster than a mechanical drive. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B089C3TZL9/ Oddly, these were ~$300 when I bought them at the end of 2023, but the price has now doubled.

>Oddly, these were ~$300 when I bought them at the end of 2023, but the price has now doubled.

Pricing in 2023 was edge case not the norm when everyone was losing money. But most on HN wouldn't believe it when I wrote it.

Re: WD announces enterprise 128TB SSD

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Post by ksec »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #25
Coolbeanstoo wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like to find some good quality but slow nvmes, I dont need super high speed for media serving but getting a lot of storage (4x4tb/2x8tb ~) is much more expensive than hard drives. Itd be nice to have a silent home server

Good quality has a baseline level of speed which is pretty fast. There's not much you can cut at that point. But cheap SSDs got down to 2x the price of hard drives last year. Even after prices stabilized, they're at 3x. Flash catching up relatively soon seems likely. Flash matching the current price of hard drives seems even more likely.

I think that is too optimistic. The cost / capacity of NAND, even by Western Digital roadmap wouldn't have come down to current HDD price by 2027 / 2028. And that is assuming HDD price dont fall.
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