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Pharma CIO cancels AI enhanced Office 365 deal as "it doesn't add value"

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Re: Pharma CIO cancels AI enhanced Office 365 deal as "it doesn't add value"

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Post by d_watt »

voxic11 wrote: post #18
d_watt wrote: post #15

I really want 365 or gemini to do the obvious thing: "Using this template, summarize this document into a slide deck." Maybe it won't be good, but it's surprising to me it can't do it barebones. Considering LLMs do an okay at summarizing into markdown, maybe the issue is a lack of proper intermediate DSL to represent slides it can train on? But autogenerating at least a scaffolding for a deck seems so obvious, it's p…

Wasn't that a specifically advertised copilot feature? Does copilot not actually support it? They are still claiming to support this it seems https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/create-a-new-pres...

When I tried it with a copilot trial at one business, it basically just dumped huge text blobs into big text fields.

They push the "generate image based on prompt" as the main add for slides to make them not just bullets, but no real foundational slide creation is baked in.

Things may have changed since I demo'd it ~6 months ago.

Google Slides is just generated images and transform text as far as I've seen.

Re: Pharma CIO cancels AI enhanced Office 365 deal as "it doesn't add value"

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Post by taylodl »

adventured wrote: post #5

First the inital, irrational exuberance. Along with out of control spending on anything AI. Then the lack of financial return on investment from the initial exploratory (try everything) stages. Leading to a sizable pullback in spending across the entire ecosystem. Then the doom & gloom (talking heads on TV; smarter-than-thou industry pundits); death of garbage start-ups (the great thinning); painful layoffs; stocks d…

You just described the Gartner Hype Cycle - https://www.gartner.com/en/research/methodologies/gartner-hy...

My favorite is the Trough of Disillusionment!

Re: Pharma CIO cancels AI enhanced Office 365 deal as "it doesn't add value"

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Post by truetraveller »

Why is this post off the front-page after I seriously think Big AI (Microsoft, Open AI and other players) somehow influenced this burying.

It's super-damaging to Microsoft, who have tooted O365 "AI" like crazy. Not to mention their investment in OpenAI. Continued criticism like this about their clumsy "AI" is probably going to cost them a few billion.

Re: Pharma CIO cancels AI enhanced Office 365 deal as "it doesn't add value"

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Post by sirspacey »

truetraveller wrote: post #43

Why is this post off the front-page after I seriously think Big AI (Microsoft, Open AI and other players) somehow influenced this burying. It's super-damaging to Microsoft, who have tooted O365 "AI" like crazy. Not to mention their investment in OpenAI. Continued criticism like this about their clumsy "AI" is probably going to cost them a few billion.

Because of how HN manages the front page to de-emphasize low value comments

Re: Pharma CIO cancels AI enhanced Office 365 deal as "it doesn't add value"

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Post by beaugunderson »

yoyohello13 wrote: post #32
hhh wrote: post #11

They didn't use meeting transcriptions or the query features related to that, which in my opinion is the primary value add of Copilot. I have been using Copilot for over half a year or something, and I haven't found it to be useful in Word, and it is rarely useful in Outlook. I don't use Excel a lot, so I get a lot of value out of the formulae generation stuff when I have to use Excel. There are several meetings that…

Idk. I've read through those summaries after meetings and they can often be misleading of miss important context. I still think you need to have a human to read through the meeting summaries to confirm they are accurate.

the zoom ones are so bad. straight up fabrication. not worth the 5 seconds it takes to dump them into the readout of the meeting.

Re: Pharma CIO cancels AI enhanced Office 365 deal as "it doesn't add value"

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Post by rsynnott »

hhh wrote: post #11

They didn't use meeting transcriptions or the query features related to that, which in my opinion is the primary value add of Copilot. I have been using Copilot for over half a year or something, and I haven't found it to be useful in Word, and it is rarely useful in Outlook. I don't use Excel a lot, so I get a lot of value out of the formulae generation stuff when I have to use Excel. There are several meetings that…

> They didn't use meeting transcriptions or the query features related to that, which in my opinion is the primary value add of Copilot.

Are those actually... good? I've only seen the Zoom ones, but those are _comically, unusably bad_.

Re: Pharma CIO cancels AI enhanced Office 365 deal as "it doesn't add value"

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Post by rsynnott »

truetraveller wrote: post #43

Why is this post off the front-page after I seriously think Big AI (Microsoft, Open AI and other players) somehow influenced this burying. It's super-damaging to Microsoft, who have tooted O365 "AI" like crazy. Not to mention their investment in OpenAI. Continued criticism like this about their clumsy "AI" is probably going to cost them a few billion.

> I seriously think Big AI (Microsoft, Open AI and other players) somehow influenced this burying.

This feels unnecessarily conspiratorial. Occam's razor would imply that it's just that a lot of legit HN users are pretty emotionally invested in this stuff, and dislike seeing negative stuff about it. You can see this in the comments on these sorts of articles; there's definitely a cohort who have a quasi-religious zeal about this stuff.

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