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Microsoft apologises after thousands report new outage

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Re: Microsoft apologises after thousands report new outage

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Post by everforward »

gchamonlive wrote: post #2

Am I suffering from confirmation bias from HN bubble, or is Microsoft really going downhill?

You’re either suffering from confirmation bias or were mistaken about how well they were doing.

Microsoft has been middling for as long as I can remember. They’re not awful, but they’re also not exceptionally good.

They get by on being good enough that it’s easier to use another of their products than to buy in to a better solution.

The outages are somewhat new, but I think in large part because they didn’t host a whole lot a decade ago. They mostly sold software that buyers had to manage.

Re: Microsoft apologises after thousands report new outage

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Post by lucianbr »

nickstinemates wrote: post #32
JackSlateur wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When was the last time Microsoft was significantly better than the competition (on the tech side) ? To my knowledge, they always were between average and terrible, compared to their competitors

May we all aspire to be average and terrible and also the most valuable company in the world.

Robber barons are your ideal? Hopefully not everybodys...

This "whatever makes most money is the right thing to do" thinking is bad. We need to do better.

Re: Microsoft apologises after thousands report new outage

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Post by Arch485 »

vel0city wrote: post #36
SoftTalker wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Crowdstrike caused a Microsoft outage. Most people don't differentiate.

Crowdstrike caused a Crowdstrike outage for systems running Crowdstrike. The vast majority of Microsoft products and services were not affected.

Except for a large part of Azure :)

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Post by ryanmcbride »

bobbob1921 wrote: post #33

How is this “another” Microsoft outage? I assume the first outage the article is referring to was the crowdstrike issue (not a Microsoft caused issue). Or perhaps I’m not aware of a different non-crowdstrike Microsoft outage recently?

Did the title change? Because it doesn't say "another outage" it says "new outage"

Re: Microsoft apologises after thousands report new outage

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Post by skywhopper »

ryanmcbride wrote: post #45
bobbob1921 wrote: post #33

How is this “another” Microsoft outage? I assume the first outage the article is referring to was the crowdstrike issue (not a Microsoft caused issue). Or perhaps I’m not aware of a different non-crowdstrike Microsoft outage recently?

Did the title change? Because it doesn't say "another outage" it says "new outage"

Is that a meaningful difference?

Re: Microsoft apologises after thousands report new outage

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Post by hylaride »

SoftTalker wrote: post #35
nickstinemates wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The choice of Linux was controversial when Azure was built. It caused a huge issue with the Windows Server team. But it's what customers wanted, and Azure was built very pragmatically.

Hotmail ran on Unix for years after Microsoft acquired it. It took quite some time for them to migrate it to Windows server.

Yeah they ran on FreeBSD, but despite multiple attempts IIRC they didn't fully pull off the migration until Windows 2000. There was a relatively honest paper they wrote about the transition: https://web.archive.org/web/20021021164226/http://www.securi...

Re: Microsoft apologises after thousands report new outage

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Post by skywhopper »

nickstinemates wrote: post #31
hangonhn wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you know their reasoning for doing it on Linux? Bigger ecosystem? Performance? I can't imagine licensing fees being an issue.

The choice of Linux was controversial when Azure was built. It caused a huge issue with the Windows Server team. But it's what customers wanted, and Azure was built very pragmatically.

Why would customers be concerned about what OS the service runs on? They want to be able to run Linux VMs but they don’t care what’s under the hood.
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