EU parliament member hit by Israeli Candiru spyware • Hacker News Board

Re: EU parliament member hit by Israeli Candiru spyware

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Post by dudeinjapan » Thu, Jul 25, 2024, 8:56 AM UTC

A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #28

dudeinjapan wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I don't know if this needs to be stated, but the idea is that they're intentionally named after unpleasant or evil things. Presumably as a way of saying: "We're dangerous/edgy/hard-core; no skulduggery is beneath us."

I never made that connection. The Palantiri in LOTR were neither inherently good nor evil, they were "seeing stones" with both communication and remote-viewing capabilities, equivalent to a what an iPhone, CCTV cam, or spy satellite can do today. It's an appropriate and cool name for a company whose whole mission is "intelligence gathering".

(Yes, it is true that Sauron corrupted Saruman while communicating to him via his Palantir, but this would be tantamount to blaming Apple because someone called my iPhone and told me to be evil.)

Re: EU parliament member hit by Israeli Candiru spyware

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Post by lukan » Thu, Jul 25, 2024, 8:57 AM UTC

OhioMan2943 wrote: post #13

I notice issues relating to these groups (israeli cyber groups) are very quick to be denied or delegitimised on HN

Not my impression, can you share an example?

Re: EU parliament member hit by Israeli Candiru spyware

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Post by jahfdG » Thu, Jul 25, 2024, 9:00 AM UTC

OhioMan2943 wrote: post #13

I notice issues relating to these groups (israeli cyber groups) are very quick to be denied or delegitimised on HN

This applies to any Western government interest group, at least for small submissions or individual comments that relate to those organizations. Large ones like the Assange release cannot be suppressed, but are full of pro-government comments that would not have been made by any software engineer before 2015.

So either the engineers have changed fundamentally, or ...

Re: EU parliament member hit by Israeli Candiru spyware

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Post by anal_reactor » Thu, Jul 25, 2024, 9:00 AM UTC

anigbrowl wrote: post #18

spoonjim wrote: post #3

Interesting that they named their company after the Amazonian fish that can supposedly swim up your penis and lodge itself inside

Juvenile humor is rarely correlated with mature ethical development.

Our corporate processes have established that using "Fish That Swims Up Your Penis" as the name of the product might contribute to 1% sales decrease. Having in mind our focus on maximizing the profit by appealing to widest audience possible, this is the core reason why we're strongly against the chosen name. Instead, we suggest conducting market research which will determine the optiminal naming scheme for our products. We are very big and very serious.

Re: EU parliament member hit by Israeli Candiru spyware

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Post by cen4 » Thu, Jul 25, 2024, 9:01 AM UTC

Rinzler89 wrote: post #39

cen4 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there sites like HN out of EU covering EU related news?

There's nothing exactly like HN out there. But EU tech. news sites exist (most have a linux focus though and you'll need to use machine translation): https://www.theregister.com/ https://linuxnews.de/ https://www.root.cz/ https://www.golem.de/ https://www.heise.de/ct https://www.computerbase.de/ https://gnulinux.ch/ https://www.linux-magazin.de/

Thanks!

Re: EU parliament member hit by Israeli Candiru spyware

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Post by ekkodur » Thu, Jul 25, 2024, 9:02 AM UTC

OhioMan2943 wrote: post #13

I notice issues relating to these groups (israeli cyber groups) are very quick to be denied or delegitimised on HN

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Re: EU parliament member hit by Israeli Candiru spyware

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Post by Ozzie_osman » Thu, Jul 25, 2024, 9:03 AM UTC

OhioMan2943 wrote: post #13

I notice issues relating to these groups (israeli cyber groups) are very quick to be denied or delegitimised on HN

This piece might be relevant: https://www.leefang.com/p/inside-the-pro-israel-information

Re: EU parliament member hit by Israeli Candiru spyware

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Post by aaron695 » Thu, Jul 25, 2024, 9:03 AM UTC

OhioMan2943 wrote: post #13

I notice issues relating to these groups (israeli cyber groups) are very quick to be denied or delegitimised on HN

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Re: EU parliament member hit by Israeli Candiru spyware

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Post by 6510 » Thu, Jul 25, 2024, 9:09 AM UTC

cen4 wrote: post #38

OhioMan2943 wrote: post #13

I notice issues relating to these groups (israeli cyber groups) are very quick to be denied or delegitimised on HN

Are there sites like HN out of EU covering EU related news?

English is required for IT.

Re: EU parliament member hit by Israeli Candiru spyware

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jul 25, 2024, 9:12 AM UTC

jonathanstrange wrote: post #31

flanked-evergl wrote: post #21

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Is the US behind everything that is done with software created by American companies?

This is a misleading question because we're not talking about any kind of software. This kind of spyware is generally treated like a weapon and only sold to befriended government entities on an expensive per-seat basis. It often falls under arms-control exporting conditions, though I don't know about the specific regulations in Israel.

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