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Re: A multimodal dataset with one trillion tokens

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I havent trained any LLMs, so please accept my comment with all the naivety with which it is given - but in the "examples of MINT multimodal documents" graphic at the top of the README, it feels to me as though the labeling (for the images on the left) couldn't be much worse? Is this normal for these datasets? How are we able to build such powerful models with such poor quality data?

Deep learning is robust to massive label noise [1] Not to say that data quality does not matter, but these noisy sets are still very useful. [1] https://arxiv.org/abs/1705.10694

Minor correction: Deep learning using gradient descent is incredibly robust to noise. If you know the mathematics, this also makes sense intuitively: gradients of incorrect labels will generally point in random directions, whereas the "truth" points in a specific direction (and I explicitly mean truth in the sense of what is portrayed consistently as fact in the dataset, not the real world truth). So when you accumulate gradients, you will end up with a net effect that moves weights only towards the consistent answers.

Since gradient descent is by far the most popular algorithm, it's easy to conflate these two things. But there are other approaches that don't treat noise so well.

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License: None Means we can’t legally use it?

```We release MINT-1T under a CC-BY-4.0 license, designating it primarily as a research artifact. While the dataset is freely available, users are responsible for ensuring its legal use in commercial settings. Users must independently verify compliance with applicable laws before employing MINT-1T for commercial purposes.```

Re: A multimodal dataset with one trillion tokens

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Copyright and intellectual property are directly at odds with these types of efforts, and has been losing to linux, gnu, github, wikipedia, mit open courseware, youtube, LLMs and their datasets. But copyright did slay Napster, PirateBay, anna’s archive etc…

Re: A multimodal dataset with one trillion tokens

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Copyright and intellectual property are directly at odds with these types of efforts, and has been losing to linux, gnu, github, wikipedia, mit open courseware, youtube, LLMs and their datasets. But copyright did slay Napster, PirateBay, anna’s archive etc…

This all be quite dated in 10-20 years now. Common information will be free as it was in the 90s, but valuable information will then probably cost even more. And 99.9% times illegal to obtain or possess.

Re: A multimodal dataset with one trillion tokens

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post #44

Copyright and intellectual property are directly at odds with these types of efforts, and has been losing to linux, gnu, github, wikipedia, mit open courseware, youtube, LLMs and their datasets. But copyright did slay Napster, PirateBay, anna’s archive etc…

This all be quite dated in 10-20 years now. Common information will be free as it was in the 90s, but valuable information will then probably cost even more. And 99.9% times illegal to obtain or possess.

Until individual countries start realizing that protecting copyright is costing them lots of potential economic growth coming from IA, and the IA business start lobbying more than the copyright business, at which point the law would just change.

Intellectual property is a fairly recent invention in economic history, and it only happened because it benefited the elite. If the balance of power changes so will the law.

Re: A multimodal dataset with one trillion tokens

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This all be quite dated in 10-20 years now. Common information will be free as it was in the 90s, but valuable information will then probably cost even more. And 99.9% times illegal to obtain or possess.

Until individual countries start realizing that protecting copyright is costing them lots of potential economic growth coming from IA, and the IA business start lobbying more than the copyright business, at which point the law would just change. Intellectual property is a fairly recent invention in economic history, and it only happened because it benefited the elite. If the balance of power changes so will the law.

IA?

Re: A multimodal dataset with one trillion tokens

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Until individual countries start realizing that protecting copyright is costing them lots of potential economic growth coming from IA, and the IA business start lobbying more than the copyright business, at which point the law would just change. Intellectual property is a fairly recent invention in economic history, and it only happened because it benefited the elite. If the balance of power changes so will the law.

IA?

AI obviously, a typo whose likelihood is increased by the fact that it's spell “IA” in my language.

Re: A multimodal dataset with one trillion tokens

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Copyright and intellectual property are directly at odds with these types of efforts, and has been losing to linux, gnu, github, wikipedia, mit open courseware, youtube, LLMs and their datasets. But copyright did slay Napster, PirateBay, anna’s archive etc…

The people who can afford to give do so knowing the alternative is what amounts to a prison lifestyle for their children.

Any ground that can be broken should be.

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