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Re: Audapolis: Edit audio files by transcript, not waveform

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Post by kajecounterhack »

dialsMavis wrote: post #32
kajecounterhack wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're being insecure. It's not rude to disagree. Also, there's often no perfect combo of words, there's a spectrum of options and you just pick an operating point. Transcription is a longer word than "word" so there's a tradeoff. It doesn't feel like a chasm to me.

I’m genuinely curious what you were trying to convey by completing your, totally valid, disagreement with “so whatevs”? I believe this is the part that’s perceived as rude because the expansion of that, “whatever”, is often further expanded as the sarcastic form of “whatever you say”.

I was going for something between YMMW and "whatever you say." The slight tilt toward the latter was received poorly ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It's just how I talk. Maybe it's generational.

Re: Audapolis: Edit audio files by transcript, not waveform

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Post by kajecounterhack »

iainctduncan wrote: post #29
kajecounterhack wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're being insecure. It's not rude to disagree. Also, there's often no perfect combo of words, there's a spectrum of options and you just pick an operating point. Transcription is a longer word than "word" so there's a tradeoff. It doesn't feel like a chasm to me.

Uh, no I'm not. In my work world, disagreeing with "whatevs" would be considered rude and dismissive and would be called out. Believe me, I don't care that you disagree. I just don't like to see people breaking the civility guidelines here as it's just about one of the last places online where discourse is largely held to a a civil level for disagreements. I write copy professionally, among other things. If you don't…

> I just don't like to see people breaking the civility guidelines here as it's just about one of the last places online where discourse is largely held to a a civil level for disagreements.

I seriously disagree that this breaks any sort of social contract between you and I on the internet. It was intended to be mildly dismissive but not overly rude. There's a higher standard for communicating with care at work (you should care about your coworkers), but do you really think people on the internet have time for this shit? I don't know you guy.

Re: Audapolis: Edit audio files by transcript, not waveform

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Post by lofaszvanitt »

Philip-J-Fry wrote: post #27
vunderba wrote: post #11

I remember when Adobe demoed this idea of being able to edit waveforms by the recognized text back in 2016 and it was pretty mind blowing for the time. https://youtu.be/I3l4XLZ59iw EDIT: I could also definitely see Audapolis being useful if you could integrate it into a podcast's post processing flow (volume normalization, de-essing) by recognizing certain verbal tics and automatically removing them from the audio su…

What ever happened to that Adobe demo? Was that a real product at any point? It's quite amazing how ahead of its time it was. Now that we have AI making people say whatever we want, it felt like Adobe was on the cusp of that then.

Were they strongarmed or self censored themselves? Would be interesting to know the backstory.

Re: Audapolis: Edit audio files by transcript, not waveform

#44

Post by DidYaWipe »

aabhay wrote: post #38
jdprgm wrote: post #35

This really needs a video demo or at least a more in depth text description of the features. Will download later to try but curious does this just do simple hard cuts on audio text or is there any ai magic for blending sentence timing if that makes sense? A number of comments turned me onto Descript -- made a similar comment on another audio thread recently: drives me absolutely insane how all audio tools with any AI…

The web based tools launch and move faster. There’s no lack of offline tools, if you’re the kind of person that files issue tickets in their spare time

"if you’re the kind of person that files issue tickets in their spare time"

What does that have to do with non-Web-based applications?

Re: Audapolis: Edit audio files by transcript, not waveform

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Post by DidYaWipe »

kajecounterhack wrote: post #41
dialsMavis wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m genuinely curious what you were trying to convey by completing your, totally valid, disagreement with “so whatevs”? I believe this is the part that’s perceived as rude because the expansion of that, “whatever”, is often further expanded as the sarcastic form of “whatever you say”.

I was going for something between YMMW and "whatever you say." The slight tilt toward the latter was received poorly ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It's just how I talk. Maybe it's generational.

Nah. It's just being a condescending dick.

Re: Audapolis: Edit audio files by transcript, not waveform

#46

Post by poincaredisk »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #36
codetrotter wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember people saying at the time that “this is the point at which voice recordings can not be trusted any longer”. And then, like you said nothing happened kind of for a few years until the current AI/ML tech got to where it is currently at.

and there's still no commercial product for synthesizing video to sync lip movements to edited transcript like all the scary proof of concepts that turned the president into a puppet Maybe there's not much value in editing what someone said after all

commercial value: no

criminal value... maybe?

There are absolutely scams right now that use deepfakes to trick people.

Re: Audapolis: Edit audio files by transcript, not waveform

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Post by poincaredisk »

DidYaWipe wrote: post #45
kajecounterhack wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was going for something between YMMW and "whatever you say." The slight tilt toward the latter was received poorly ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It's just how I talk. Maybe it's generational.

Nah. It's just being a condescending dick.

To be fair, I didn't read it as condescending. This I understood it as a generic statement ender, like "idk" or "ymmv" or "i guess", i.e. something that you put at the end of a sentence when you don't know what more to say. Maybe it actually is generational?

Re: Audapolis: Edit audio files by transcript, not waveform

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Post by hunter2_ »

poincaredisk wrote: post #46
jazzyjackson wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

and there's still no commercial product for synthesizing video to sync lip movements to edited transcript like all the scary proof of concepts that turned the president into a puppet Maybe there's not much value in editing what someone said after all

commercial value: no criminal value... maybe? There are absolutely scams right now that use deepfakes to trick people.

Yeah, it's a bit like asking why Microsoft doesn't make a BitTorrent client or why Chase doesn't offer a cryptocurrency. The prevailing use cases are just a bit too untoward, even if a few wholesome stories do exist.

Re: Audapolis: Edit audio files by transcript, not waveform

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Post by DidYaWipe »

DidYaWipe wrote: post #44
aabhay wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The web based tools launch and move faster. There’s no lack of offline tools, if you’re the kind of person that files issue tickets in their spare time

"if you’re the kind of person that files issue tickets in their spare time" What does that have to do with non-Web-based applications?

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