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Re: Microsoft's Weather app now shows more ads

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Post by mysterydip » Tue, Jul 09, 2024, 3:36 PM UTC

dingnuts wrote: post #35

FragmentShader wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have to pay my bills today, not whenever the professional software I use gets released on Linux. Also, the Linux experience is so miserable that if Windows were to die, I'd just switch to MacOS tbh.

excuses excuses spoken like someone who hasn't used Linux in a decade. The experience is much better in Linux than the other OSes these days If you need to use software in Windows for work that's one thing, but you probably don't need that software on every personal device and your opinion about using Linux is definitely just your opinion

Even if you do need Windows for your software, projects like Wine are making progress every day. There's only a few things I use that don't work out of the box, and for that I have a stripped down Windows VM.

Re: Microsoft's Weather app now shows more ads

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Post by nightski » Tue, Jul 09, 2024, 3:36 PM UTC

giantrobot wrote: post #26

AlexandrB wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

macOS being free is sleight of hand. The cost is just baked into the margin on their hardware. Maybe if you could run macOS on hardware of your choice (i.e. "hackintosh") it would be an apples-to-apples comparison.

> The cost is just baked into the margin on their hardware. Oh no! Wait, why is this somehow a concern? You buy a Mac and get an OS with years worth of free updates to that OS and additional years of security updates to the OS. Where's the problem?

There's no problem. It's just the same model as Microsoft with the only difference that Microsoft works with an ecosystem of hardware manufacturers vs. being the sole one.

Re: Microsoft's Weather app now shows more ads

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Post by steve1977 » Tue, Jul 09, 2024, 3:36 PM UTC

yoyohello13 wrote: post #13

The more people who use Linux, the more software will be available to use. If you are in any way technical, do society a favor and switch to Linux.

I'm not sure if this is true. Just having people use Linux does not produce or port any software to Linux.

Now you could argue that it increases the market share of Linux, but for that, it needs to be a market, i.e. software vendors need to have a way to monetize. And the question then is if you're not ending up with the same issues you have on closed-source proprietary software.

Generally speaking, I mostly had better experiences with commercial software in my life as a "user", both professionally and in private.

Re: Microsoft's Weather app now shows more ads

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Post by wongarsu » Tue, Jul 09, 2024, 3:36 PM UTC

giantrobot wrote: post #26

AlexandrB wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

macOS being free is sleight of hand. The cost is just baked into the margin on their hardware. Maybe if you could run macOS on hardware of your choice (i.e. "hackintosh") it would be an apples-to-apples comparison.

> The cost is just baked into the margin on their hardware. Oh no! Wait, why is this somehow a concern? You buy a Mac and get an OS with years worth of free updates to that OS and additional years of security updates to the OS. Where's the problem?

If I buy a laptop from Dell the cost of Windows is also baked into their margin. And you equally get years worth of free updates. The point is that "MacOS is free, Windows costs money" is a bad comparison both from the end-user PoV and the actual economics of what's happening.

Re: Microsoft's Weather app now shows more ads

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Post by dist-epoch » Tue, Jul 09, 2024, 3:37 PM UTC

mananaysiempre wrote: post #29

dist-epoch wrote: post #17

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In Europe there is no reason to pay $199. You can buy a second hand Windows 11 Pro license for $10. Office Pro for $25. Despite what many will say, it's completely legal, EU highest court ruled that companies can't forbid the transfer/re-sale of legitimately owned software licenses.

> Office Pro for $25 Really? I’ve seen OEM Windows licenses for about €15 on a German website (IIRC the practice of selling them was specifically declared legal in Germany), but Office went for €50 there.

You got to search a bit more, look outside Germany too. It's legal in all of EU.

Re: Microsoft's Weather app now shows more ads

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Post by steve1977 » Tue, Jul 09, 2024, 3:37 PM UTC

dingnuts wrote: post #35

FragmentShader wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have to pay my bills today, not whenever the professional software I use gets released on Linux. Also, the Linux experience is so miserable that if Windows were to die, I'd just switch to MacOS tbh.

excuses excuses spoken like someone who hasn't used Linux in a decade. The experience is much better in Linux than the other OSes these days If you need to use software in Windows for work that's one thing, but you probably don't need that software on every personal device and your opinion about using Linux is definitely just your opinion

> The experience is much better in Linux than the other OSes these days

Until the next system update breaks Wayland or your GPU driver again.

Re: Microsoft's Weather app now shows more ads

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Post by moi2388 » Tue, Jul 09, 2024, 3:37 PM UTC

dist-epoch wrote: post #17

whalesalad wrote: post #5

Considering retail for the OS is $199 I find it insane the way Microsoft is pushing such a dystopian freemium model on their users. When you buy a new computer with Windows, the manufacturer pays Microsoft for that license too (obj not the same cost as a retail one, but a cost nonetheless) Meanwhile essentially every version of macOS is free (gotta go back a few years to find retail upgrade copies, which are still fa…

In Europe there is no reason to pay $199. You can buy a second hand Windows 11 Pro license for $10. Office Pro for $25. Despite what many will say, it's completely legal, EU highest court ruled that companies can't forbid the transfer/re-sale of legitimately owned software licenses.

I have never received a single code from any reseller that wasn’t being sold to multiple people, resulting in blocks.

Re: Microsoft's Weather app now shows more ads

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Post by inversetelecine » Tue, Jul 09, 2024, 3:37 PM UTC

tracker1 wrote: post #7

And every article like this just convinces me that switching my personal desktop to Linux a couple years ago was the right choice. I do wish that Affinity or another PS competitor had a good Linux or at least WINE support. Seems to be one of the greater gaping holes imo.

We need more professional software for Linux. I can't switch my work PC because Autodesk, Bentley and Dassault products to name a few. Personal machines that just run Firefox and things like handbrake or VM stuff, linux works great.

Re: Microsoft's Weather app now shows more ads

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Post by pixxel » Tue, Jul 09, 2024, 3:37 PM UTC

FragmentShader wrote: post #24

yoyohello13 wrote: post #13

The more people who use Linux, the more software will be available to use. If you are in any way technical, do society a favor and switch to Linux.

I have to pay my bills today, not whenever the professional software I use gets released on Linux. Also, the Linux experience is so miserable that if Windows were to die, I'd just switch to MacOS tbh.

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Re: Microsoft's Weather app now shows more ads

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Post by moreofthis » Tue, Jul 09, 2024, 3:38 PM UTC

FragmentShader wrote: post #24

yoyohello13 wrote: post #13

The more people who use Linux, the more software will be available to use. If you are in any way technical, do society a favor and switch to Linux.

I have to pay my bills today, not whenever the professional software I use gets released on Linux. Also, the Linux experience is so miserable that if Windows were to die, I'd just switch to MacOS tbh.

Using debian (and with an upgrade to 12) with gnome feels very polished. I think I'd call it close to a "default" linux experience. That doesn't sound sexy but it means it's the happy path, thoroughly tested, no surprises. The closest thing I've had to an issue in 6 months is extrepo duplicating some repo keys, it was as easy to fix as deleting the file once.

Modern linux can be a boring and productive place if you want it to be.