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So the price of used Sandy Bridge or newer laptop (optionally cracked screen) with 1Gbit ethernet, USB3, couple SATA, couple PCIE lanes (ExpressCard and mpcie slots) and build-in UPS.
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#42The cheapest NAS is usually just taking some old desktop PC and repurposing it headless. :-)
or even better - old laptop
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#43Note that it doesn't look like it has ECC, so make sure to have backups. Fancy file systems like ZFS don't remove the need for ECC.
> so make sure to have backups Can you (or someone) suggest a backup scheme? I have a 28TB NAS. Almost everything I've looked into is expensive or intended more for enterprise tier. Are there options for backup in the "hobbyist" price range?
The low-tech and not super resilient method is to buy a second 28TB NAS, put it in a different location and sync them periodically when you know your primary is in good shape.
Back in the days of DVDs, I used to backup my 20GB drive onto DVDs. I wonder if you could do something similar today but instead of a bunch of 4GB optical disks, you would use 4 x 8TB drives?
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
> so make sure to have backups Can you (or someone) suggest a backup scheme? I have a 28TB NAS. Almost everything I've looked into is expensive or intended more for enterprise tier. Are there options for backup in the "hobbyist" price range?
AWS, GCP, and Azure all offer cold storage for about $1 per TB per month. If you want any cheaper you need to build a second NAS. You could also take the awkward route and add one or two large drives to your desktop, mirror there, and back that up to backblaze (not B2). The other suggestions you got for hot storage strike me as the wrong way to handle this, if you're considering $80 per year per TB for backups then j…
For the OP - be careful with AWS, the closest pricing to one dollar per terabyte is S3 Glacier Deep Archive and you'd be surprised how expensive a full restore can be in the event that you need to do so in terms of restore pricing, egress cost, etc.
Another NAS isn't really a good solution (unless you can place it in a different house) - the goal of a cloud back up is that it's offsite.
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#45The cheapest NAS is usually just taking some old desktop PC and repurposing it headless. :-)
or even better - old laptop
Or a Raspberry Pi you have kicking around:
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#46Personally I like the Dell/HP/Lenovo Micro PCs. For ~200€ you can get one with an i5-10500T, 16GB DDR4, and 256GB NVMe SSD and it can be upgraded to 64GB RAM with
lot of storage (1x NVMe + 1x 2,5")
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
AWS, GCP, and Azure all offer cold storage for about $1 per TB per month. If you want any cheaper you need to build a second NAS. You could also take the awkward route and add one or two large drives to your desktop, mirror there, and back that up to backblaze (not B2). The other suggestions you got for hot storage strike me as the wrong way to handle this, if you're considering $80 per year per TB for backups then j…
For the OP - be careful with AWS, the closest pricing to one dollar per terabyte is S3 Glacier Deep Archive and you'd be surprised how expensive a full restore can be in the event that you need to do so in terms of restore pricing, egress cost, etc. Another NAS isn't really a good solution (unless you can place it in a different house) - the goal of a cloud back up is that it's offsite.
While true that it is something to be wary of, if you restore the entire backup at full cost every two years it's still cheaper than B2.
The egress is only super high when you compare to how cheap $1 per month is.
And I bet you can find somewhere offsite for a NAS for free or a tiny fraction of $150/month.
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#48I had an old RaspberryPi model 2 around, installed OpenMediavault, a couple of USB HDs and off I went [1]. Amazing what you can do with old hardware!
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#49My secret protip: old Fujitsu desktop/nuc PCs. At least in Germany (Europe?) they are cheap on ebay since a lot of businesses use them and upgrade on a regular schedule. If you care about power consumption like I do, you can Google "$model energy consumption white paper" which contains very accurate data about idle usage, for example https://sp.ts.fujitsu.com/dmsp/Publications/public/wp-energy... In one case I had a…
Parkytowers is site about repurposing thin clients of various kinds, it's a goldmine for finding out power consumption, Linux compatibility, possible hardware mods, etc: https://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/hware/hardware.shtml
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
been using zfs on my home nas without ecc for well over a decade and never had any problems. i've seen people claiming this since before i started using zfs and it seems so unnecessary for some random home project.
Unless you've verified hashes of your files over time you may be having problems and not realizing it.
They did mention ZFS, so verified hashes of each file block. I hope they are scrubbing, and have at least one snapshot.