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Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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Post by kriops »

jampekka wrote: post #23
__loam wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI developers don't care about intellectual property.

Which is a positive turn of events. Intellectual property as a concept needs to go.

If you think for more than a few seconds on the matter, you quickly realise that intellectual property is a moral necessity, because intellectual expropriation (which is what you are really talking about) would destroy a major incentive for positive contributions to society.

Everything political is rooted in morality, and while it is easy to point out political challenges on the topic, intellectual property is ethically an unambiguously good concept.

Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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Post by biophysboy »

31337Logic wrote: post #35

Anybody else completely apathetic towards all of this? I'm so fed up with the morally-bankrupt Sam Altman and Open AI as a whole that by the time another one of these "Hey, check out the latest blah blah AI blah!!" gets posted, my first (and often lasting) impression "meh".

The dramatic predictions that tend to occur between the model updates are what annoy me. AGI is coming! It’ll be smarter than PhDs! We will need technocommunism!! Cold War 2!

Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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Post by ehsankia »

uh_uh wrote: post #36
thriftwy wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just run all key frames through stable diffusion and it should be quite good.

I don't think there's such a thing as key frames here, just frames. And if you run SD through every frame, the output will be janky because SD doesn't know about temporal coherence.

Honestly neither does OpenSora it seems, as it is pretty damn janky already.

Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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Post by croes »

jampekka wrote: post #23
__loam wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI developers don't care about intellectual property.

Which is a positive turn of events. Intellectual property as a concept needs to go.

That would give big companies a big advantage.

It maybe wrong how it is now, but it exists for a reason.

Same with patents.

Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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Post by Joeri »

kriops wrote: post #41
jampekka wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is a positive turn of events. Intellectual property as a concept needs to go.

If you think for more than a few seconds on the matter, you quickly realise that intellectual property is a moral necessity, because intellectual expropriation (which is what you are really talking about) would destroy a major incentive for positive contributions to society. Everything political is rooted in morality, and while it is easy to point out political challenges on the topic, intellectual property is ethica…

Most of the great art was created in a world without intellectual property, or with no effective IP enforcement on that art.

While I don’t think all IP should be abolished, I think in general there is too much of it, protected for too long, and society would be better off getting rid of patents and dramatically downsizing copyright to at most a few decades of protection.

(And yes I have thought a lot on this matter. The evidence behind patents being overall beneficial is weak, and there is no effective societal argument for the current copyright terms.)

Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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Post by Jiahang »

__loam wrote: post #10
_flux wrote: post #5

It's probably not the best idea to base your clone on the name that is being trademarked: https://trademarks.justia.com/984/05/sora-98405663.html

AI developers don't care about intellectual property.

this is a issue

Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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Post by jampekka »

kriops wrote: post #41
jampekka wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is a positive turn of events. Intellectual property as a concept needs to go.

If you think for more than a few seconds on the matter, you quickly realise that intellectual property is a moral necessity, because intellectual expropriation (which is what you are really talking about) would destroy a major incentive for positive contributions to society. Everything political is rooted in morality, and while it is easy to point out political challenges on the topic, intellectual property is ethica…

I have thought on the matter for millions of seconds.

Politics and economics don't have anything to do with morality. It's about power. The moral fairytailes are there to justify whatever the state of affairs are. When these change, new fairytales justifying them will be adopted.

If right to property is a God given right, why the hell I as a atheist should give a damn?

Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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Post by pxtail »

31337Logic wrote: post #35

Anybody else completely apathetic towards all of this? I'm so fed up with the morally-bankrupt Sam Altman and Open AI as a whole that by the time another one of these "Hey, check out the latest blah blah AI blah!!" gets posted, my first (and often lasting) impression "meh".

For me it's more than apathetic - for example when I'm encountering content which is illustrated with AI-generated images I noticed that I'm subconsciously downgrading it's quality right away - for sure it's wrong because that's classic example of judging book by the cover and even some good quality OS software on GH and/or good tech blogs with proven record use AI-generated content for illustrative purposes - however it's kind of automatic reaction for me and I need to use conscious effort to combat it.

Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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Post by loudmax »

zdyn5 wrote: post #3

I know it’s probably using < 1000x compute of the real Sora, but “pretty good” is stretching it

Depends on your frame of reference. Compared to anything else I've seen generated on a consumer grade GPU, I'd say these are are indeed pretty good.

Here's their example gallery: https://hpcaitech.github.io/Open-Sora/

Compared to the outputs from other models run on consumer grade GPUs, I'd say those are very good.

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