This does not fill me with confidence that they won't pull the same crap with Recall.
Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
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Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#42How is this not a compliance risk? Automatically transferring data, including personal data, to the cloud without explicit consent raises GDPR concerns.
Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#43Why the hell aren't the EU and the FTC suing the shit out of them for bundling, telemetry, lock in, gouging, shitty defaults?
"It looks like you're considering investigating Microsoft! I've loaded 500 free crystals into Candy Forgecraft Extreme and launched it for you! Just play one level..."
I have no idea why the EU isn't going after Microsoft with a heavy club for all the crap they're pulling lately.
Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#44Microsoft makes it a pain, but you can still jump through some CLI hoops to use only a local user account to log in to Windows, rather than the cloud-conmected Microsoft account they try to funnel you into. Not logging into a Microsoft account prevents OneDrive from doing anything other than spamming you with notifications about how great it would be if you logged in and started using it. And you can still uninstall…
Additionally for those with Windows 11 Pro or higher, you can straight up block OneDrive and other cloud functions with Group Policy.
Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
> ...to get new PC gamers onto an alternative for there to be a considerable shift away from Windows. Have you tried Steam on Linux? It works amazingly well, either with native Linux support in games or through Proton support (their Windows emulation layer). Quite a few people I know have gone that route and are shocked at just how well it works in practice.
It simply works. It's amazing what does now Wine/Proton
I was pretty blown away by how simple and straightforward the experience was for me recently on Debian 12.
* Go to app store (flatpak) and install Steam
* Launch and login to Steam
* Install Helldivers 2
* Launch the game. Done! Everything "just works"
Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#46Why the hell aren't the EU and the FTC suing the shit out of them for bundling, telemetry, lock in, gouging, shitty defaults?
I think the 90's Antitrust battle was long and painful for everyone, and the hope was that the lessons from the fallout of it from it would carry forward in OS design. But the staff has turned over and nobody remembers it anymore, so here we go again. (see also: The rise of Fascism worldwide as WW2 veterans die off) That said, a Web Browser was/is a disproportionately significant application for the OS, where prefere…
Microsoft bundle edge still and it can't be removed, even in windows 11 LTSC. Constant nagging if you don't accept O365/OneDrive unless you eviscerate the machine thoroughly or use a cracked LTSC build.
As for Apple, no. Literally I get asked once about stuff and then never again.
Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#47Jokes on them, I only use local accounts
You to today (I do too). May not tomorrow: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/microsoft-acco...
Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#48I recently reinstalled Windows Home.
It's not possible to install a local account any more. Apparently all the loopholes have been closed. It just loops you back to the "oops looks like you lost internet access" page.
I made a new account - installer@outlook.com with no@thankyou.com as the backup email (which you have to give). Microsoft didn't like that, so it made me go through 10 minutes of captchas (captcas in the OS install - wtf)
Then it forced me to give it my birth date, ostensibly to check if I'm of age. Could just ask "are you older than 13" but then you don't get that sweet data.
Finally I booted into the OS, and I made a local account.
I spent 30 minutes going through the awful menus trying and probably failing to disable all the crap that sends all my data to Microsoft. Some of which can't be disabled in the Home edition.
Then I tried to delete my "installer" account. Oops, sorry, we have to "verify" who you are by sending an email to no@thankyou.com. Oh, you don't have that? No worries, just give us your real email address and we'll allow you to log you in after 30 days.
Then later I check my real name gmail account and there's a Microsoft email with a login code. I never gave MS this email address. What the hell??
Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#49Microsoft makes it a pain, but you can still jump through some CLI hoops to use only a local user account to log in to Windows, rather than the cloud-conmected Microsoft account they try to funnel you into. Not logging into a Microsoft account prevents OneDrive from doing anything other than spamming you with notifications about how great it would be if you logged in and started using it. And you can still uninstall…
You can still use it offline without an account just fine with Pro SKUs and up.
I've definitely seen laptops from multiple OEMs with Pro edition pre-installed that still don't offer the local account route without first going through the CLI to bypass. I think the only other route remaining is to just not have any NIC that the installer can recognize.
Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#50I'm all for hating on Microsoft for their continued destruction of the local Windows 11 experience, but I actually think this is a good decision. Assuming you're logging in with a Microsoft account, and assuming you have a OneDrive account, it's a better experience to set up the folder backup feature as early as possible in the set-up process. If you really don't want it, it's easy to undo.
I still don't like being forced to log in with a Microsoft account as part of the set-up. I prefer to log in locally, and then incrementally turn on the cloud features. But I've voted with my wallet and have moved to Linux and macOS for day-to-day desktop computing. I still keep a Windows 10 VM around for when I need it, but am doing all I can to avoid the "modern" Windows desktop experience.