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Microsoft insiders worry the company has become just 'IT for OpenAI'

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Re: Microsoft insiders worry the company has become just 'IT for OpenAI'

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Post by znpy »

cjk2 wrote: post #13

It's worse than that. They always sacrifice their customers to try and win new business on some fad of the hour. Every fucking time. This has been going on 20 years at least. This is another Windows Phone. They shaft the entire platform for a decade to fulfil some stupid fucked up half baked ideology. Imagine Windows if they invested in their customers rather than their stock price and ego. Imagine if they became a b…

> Imagine Windows if they invested in their customers rather than their stock price and ego. Imagine if they became a bastion of privacy and security. Imagine if they became someone we could trust.

You're missing the point. Think of the actual Windows user: it's not the average joe/jane that get the oem laptop with windows pre-installed, it's the big IT departments that are going to not only ship tens of thousands of windows machines (with "professional" tier licenses) but also the whole bundle of expensive shit (office, outlook, teams, office364, active directory and the whole thing).

Have you focused on those customers?

Ok now think: what alternatives do those customer have? Pretty much NONE.

If you're thinking GNU/Linux you're being unrealistic. GNU/Linux on non-tech workers' desktop will always be ready next year, every year.

If you're thinking Macbooks... No IT budget is deep enough for that.

Microsoft has no need to worry about their customers as Windows users. They have no other place to go anyway.

Re: Microsoft insiders worry the company has become just 'IT for OpenAI'

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Post by pjmlp »

cjk2 wrote: post #13

It's worse than that. They always sacrifice their customers to try and win new business on some fad of the hour. Every fucking time. This has been going on 20 years at least. This is another Windows Phone. They shaft the entire platform for a decade to fulfil some stupid fucked up half baked ideology. Imagine Windows if they invested in their customers rather than their stock price and ego. Imagine if they became a b…

I learnt that lesson, the way they allowed a small team to screw up C++/CX customers, paying for Visual Studio licenses, bringing down the whole XAML C++ development experience to the 2000's ATL days.

Re: Microsoft insiders worry the company has become just 'IT for OpenAI'

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Post by nunez »

dageshi wrote: post #18
cjk2 wrote: post #13

It's worse than that. They always sacrifice their customers to try and win new business on some fad of the hour. Every fucking time. This has been going on 20 years at least. This is another Windows Phone. They shaft the entire platform for a decade to fulfil some stupid fucked up half baked ideology. Imagine Windows if they invested in their customers rather than their stock price and ego. Imagine if they became a b…

Most people do trust them already, they're still the worlds biggest desktop os by a large margin. So erm, it probably wouldn't make any meaningful difference?

> Most people do trust them already,

Forced to trust them. Windows is the default at most companies, and the cheapest laptops on the market (the ones that will shove ads all over Edge and your start menu) run Windows also.

Re: Microsoft insiders worry the company has become just 'IT for OpenAI'

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Post by contrast »

cjk2 wrote: post #13

It's worse than that. They always sacrifice their customers to try and win new business on some fad of the hour. Every fucking time. This has been going on 20 years at least. This is another Windows Phone. They shaft the entire platform for a decade to fulfil some stupid fucked up half baked ideology. Imagine Windows if they invested in their customers rather than their stock price and ego. Imagine if they became a b…

Mobile phones were a fad?

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Post by arresin »

contrast wrote: post #44
cjk2 wrote: post #13

It's worse than that. They always sacrifice their customers to try and win new business on some fad of the hour. Every fucking time. This has been going on 20 years at least. This is another Windows Phone. They shaft the entire platform for a decade to fulfil some stupid fucked up half baked ideology. Imagine Windows if they invested in their customers rather than their stock price and ego. Imagine if they became a b…

Mobile phones were a fad?

No but Microsoft was never going to be able to do it. Maybe there’s a parallel now.

Re: Microsoft insiders worry the company has become just 'IT for OpenAI'

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Post by cjk2 »

kevinventullo wrote: post #37
cjk2 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is exactly what working for the customer is. Fundamental technology, research and science.

Working for the customer is designing a new graph search algorithm that speeds up formula propagation in Excel by 10%. Working for yourself is designing a new graph search algorithm that’s really cool and gets published in top journals and conferences.

The latter makes its way into products occasionally. Which helps the customer. A lot of the stuff I use comes from research not a product team.
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