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Biden puts a bullet in Kaspersky: Sales, updates to be banned in America

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Re: Biden puts a bullet in Kaspersky: Sales, updates to be banned in America

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Totally makes sense, since Kaspersky is not just an anti-virus company and it's not just "part-Russian" They're literally a contractor and consultant to russian military. https://informnapalm.org/en/alabugaleaks-part-2-kaspersky-la...

So, like Symantec?

Re: Biden puts a bullet in Kaspersky: Sales, updates to be banned in America

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It doesn't matter where the shell company is formally registered. The founder and CTO is Durov, whose previous project, VKontakte (Facebook clone) has been effectively confiscated by Russian government. Telegram is a Russian project. People are hoping that because it's made by a "good" Russian who isn't in Russia anymore, and holds a grudge against Russian government, Telegram won't have Russian backdoors. I'd say, t…

If we’re going that far, wouldn’t one then logically assume that all US software has US backdoors? What does that mean for other countries?

>If we’re going that far, wouldn’t one then logically assume that all US software has US backdoors?

Critical one probably has.

>What does that mean for other countries?

That if they are involved in an armed conflict with the US, they would be better off not having US software where they don't want the US to have presence.

Which brings us to where we started: the reason for the ban is that Russia has invaded Ukraine and is waging war there, and the US isn't on Russia's side.

Re: Biden puts a bullet in Kaspersky: Sales, updates to be banned in America

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"the program searched for terms as broad as 'TOP SECRET'"

It is a good line for the script in a second part of the movie with the same name. As a excuse to justify the banning of an Antivirus... weak as the Intelligence of some Chief Commander in the New World. Not a Big-EEndian. Swift...

Re: Biden puts a bullet in Kaspersky: Sales, updates to be banned in America

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If we’re going that far, wouldn’t one then logically assume that all US software has US backdoors? What does that mean for other countries?

>If we’re going that far, wouldn’t one then logically assume that all US software has US backdoors? Critical one probably has. >What does that mean for other countries? That if they are involved in an armed conflict with the US, they would be better off not having US software where they don't want the US to have presence. Which brings us to where we started: the reason for the ban is that Russia has invaded Ukraine a…

The US invaded 7 different countries and killed upwards of a million civilians by some estimates in this century alone. Should the same measures be applied to it, or is it “different” and I “don’t understand”. How about Israel?

Re: Biden puts a bullet in Kaspersky: Sales, updates to be banned in America

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>If we’re going that far, wouldn’t one then logically assume that all US software has US backdoors? Critical one probably has. >What does that mean for other countries? That if they are involved in an armed conflict with the US, they would be better off not having US software where they don't want the US to have presence. Which brings us to where we started: the reason for the ban is that Russia has invaded Ukraine a…

The US invaded 7 different countries and killed upwards of a million civilians by some estimates in this century alone. Should the same measures be applied to it, or is it “different” and I “don’t understand”. How about Israel?

>The US invaded 7 different countries and killed upwards of a million civilians by some estimates in this century alone. Should the same measures be applied to it, or is it “different” and I “don’t understand”

By the countries the US invaded, during the invasion - you bet.

>How about Israel?

I'm guessing Iran isn't a big user of Israeli software.

Re: Biden puts a bullet in Kaspersky: Sales, updates to be banned in America

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Serious question: do people still use antivirus software?

A lot of times, the antivirus is part of the crapware that comes with a new windows computer. After a month of free tryal, it start shiwing scarry reminders. And as John reminds us, it may be difficult to uninstall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKgf5PaBzyg

Re: Biden puts a bullet in Kaspersky: Sales, updates to be banned in America

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The US invaded 7 different countries and killed upwards of a million civilians by some estimates in this century alone. Should the same measures be applied to it, or is it “different” and I “don’t understand”. How about Israel?

>The US invaded 7 different countries and killed upwards of a million civilians by some estimates in this century alone. Should the same measures be applied to it, or is it “different” and I “don’t understand” By the countries the US invaded, during the invasion - you bet. >How about Israel? I'm guessing Iran isn't a big user of Israeli software.

The US is a major user of Israeli software and hardware though, Mossad notwithstanding. Seems imprudent from the “national security” perspective

Re: Biden puts a bullet in Kaspersky: Sales, updates to be banned in America

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Totally makes sense, since Kaspersky is not just an anti-virus company and it's not just "part-Russian" They're literally a contractor and consultant to russian military. https://informnapalm.org/en/alabugaleaks-part-2-kaspersky-la...

So, like Symantec?

Do you have sources of Symantec working for russian military?
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