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New York bans 'addictive feeds' for teens

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Re: New York bans 'addictive feeds' for teens

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Another case of the political use of medical terms in completely unsupported ways for political goals. There is no medical or scientific support for the use of the word "addiction" in this context. It's a meme that's become more dangerous than the problem it imagines. It's not in the DSM 5 or ICD10 and not because they haven't addressed it in committee. They have, as recently as 2020 and found no support for it. And…

then tell me, why do you need scientific approval before consumption of novel substances, while such other forms of consumption (that access the brain's networks through other modalities than ingestion) are by default "ok"? or are behavioural interventions must be considered as strictly less effective and not require any approval, unless used in a medical setting? and that brings to another question - if it's only the medical setting that decides whether a substance should be considered for approval for consumption (although there's also zero proof that the applications in question thave no psychoactive effects - its rests entirely on your personal feelings), are all other settings simply out of bounds for legal (and, most importantly, moral) considerations? And the way you objectivize such items like "intrinsic value" (completely individual, i.e., case-by-case domain, obviously involved in choice of substance of addiction in all cases of addiction), for me, renders your arguments completely awry. And comparison with conversion therapy is just plain edgy and intentful misrepresentation for the sake of ackchyually.

In my view, this is a perfect case for "there's legitimate doubts about the safety of this technology, so let's ban this until it's completely proven to be safe to consume".

Re: New York bans 'addictive feeds' for teens

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This is obviously unconstitutional and it'll be shot down in the courts before it takes effect since this is their version of KOSA among other First Amendment issues. Some context here: https://www.techdirt.com/2024/06/11/nys-safe-for-kids-act-a-...

What is unconstitutional about it?

It's content-based discrimination, which means it goes straight to strict scrutiny.

Re: New York bans 'addictive feeds' for teens

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN is my most addictive social media, should this site be banned? :)

I see the name "dang" discussed here quite a bit; it seems to be an internal code name for a highly effective algorithm for surfacing relevant content. Whatever it is, it seems to be far more intelligent than any other automated system I've seen. Has HN somehow created a sentient recommendation system?

The algorithm is actually quite old. While dang is the result of numerous modern innovations, the approach has roots in a 1770 technique due to Johann Wolfgang Ritter von Kempelen de Pázmánd, who is perhaps better known for his work on speech synthesis.

While you may see other users talking about "him" in a personal manner, any appearance of sentience is, I assure you, entirely ineluctable.

Re: New York bans 'addictive feeds' for teens

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post #3

first airbnb, and now this, you love to see it. hopefully banning all gambling is next

I’m always amazed by how much some people want the government to control.

And I'm always amazed by how much some other people think the free market can do no wrong and should be treated in a completely laissez-faire manner.

Re: New York bans 'addictive feeds' for teens

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m always amazed by how much some people want the government to control.

It's only a natural reaction when nothing else is in control. Unless you think that social media platforms are fine as is. I understand the hesitancy to government control, but at some point, what other mechanism is there? I'm seriously asking.

They weren't referring to Social Media Platforms, they were referring to the previous poster talking about AirBnB and Gambling specifically.

There are many mechanisms we can rely on, like teaching someone the tradeoffs of a dangerous decision.

Re: New York bans 'addictive feeds' for teens

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This is obviously unconstitutional and it'll be shot down in the courts before it takes effect since this is their version of KOSA among other First Amendment issues. Some context here: https://www.techdirt.com/2024/06/11/nys-safe-for-kids-act-a-...

What is unconstitutional about it?

[1] Age veriifcation

[2] Content discrimination

[3] Has the unfortunate side effect of restricting LGBTQIA+ youth and adults' speech

There's a reason why most of these bills are legally challenged.

Re: New York bans 'addictive feeds' for teens

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post #3

first airbnb, and now this, you love to see it. hopefully banning all gambling is next

I’m always amazed by how much some people want the government to control.

If the choice is between the government and the landlord, I choose the government.

Re: New York bans 'addictive feeds' for teens

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post #34

This is obviously unconstitutional and it'll be shot down in the courts before it takes effect since this is their version of KOSA among other First Amendment issues. Some context here: https://www.techdirt.com/2024/06/11/nys-safe-for-kids-act-a-...

First Amendment doesn't cover things that cause direct harm or speech to minors. In this case, you can draw a straight line between social media usage and an increase in teen suicides, and keeping them on it for long periods is detrimental to their overall mental health especially when they don't have fully developed impulse control or are not legally expected to. You're not allowed to advertise gambling products, al…

Just a reminder that getting adults addicted to stuff is not always legal either.
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