New to Ruby? Tips for the new Rubyist.

Post by why-el » Tue, Jun 05, 2012, 4:18 PM UTC

bradleyland wrote: post #22

why-el wrote: post #4

I would like to get some advice from experienced Ruby hackers. Currently I am picking up Ruby through rails, which I am assuming is fairly common. I want to know the downsides to this and what people did to supplement their ruby knowledge beyond Rails. I eventually would like to write my own gems, contribute to open source, and so forth. I am absolutely not satisfied with just consuming Rails.

Probably the biggest downside is that you'll incorrectly assume that some parts of Rails are actually part of Ruby. Then you'll miss them when they're not there and possibly feel a small amount of sadness. Oh the humanity! :) The big one is ActiveSupport. There are many extensions to common Ruby objects like String, Enumerable, Hash, etc. For example. In Rails, you'll use something like this quite frequently: some_st…

Post by verisimilidude » Tue, Jun 05, 2012, 5:09 PM UTC

Pewpewarrows wrote: post #23

tferris wrote: post #21

OT and hijacking this thread: 1. Who is actually new to Ruby? (After Ruby or rather the popular RoR is there almost for a decade everyone should have made some experiences with Ruby, so I am wondering if there are many new Rubiest) 2. What new language/stack did you start to learn recently? (for me: Node.js)

As a Python guy I never had any reason to need to learn Ruby. And even now that I'm playing around with it it's purely out of professional curiosity.

Post by why-el » Tue, Jun 05, 2012, 5:24 PM UTC

hkarthik wrote: post #17

why-el wrote: post #4

I would like to get some advice from experienced Ruby hackers. Currently I am picking up Ruby through rails, which I am assuming is fairly common. I want to know the downsides to this and what people did to supplement their ruby knowledge beyond Rails. I eventually would like to write my own gems, contribute to open source, and so forth. I am absolutely not satisfied with just consuming Rails.

I'd recommend reading Eloquent Ruby by Russ Olsen. It's a great after-Rails intro to Ruby and uses a lot of specific examples from the framework to highlight how Ruby features make some of the magic happen in Rails.

Post by anuraj » Tue, Jun 05, 2012, 5:49 PM UTC

bradleyland wrote: post #25

tseabrooks wrote: post #9

I'm in the middle of picking up Ruby primarily because there was a GitHub project I wanted to fork and modify for my purposes that happened to be written in Ruby.The biggest problem I found is that the Ruby (or maybe the Rails?) community by and large provides shit instructions on how to get something running. I checked out a handful of projects and they all said things like, "Just deploy the normal what you deploy a…

I think the genesis if this problem is due mostly to the fact that programmers from a PHP background are used to not thinking about their server stack. That is changing though. In languages like PHP, it's possible (again, this is becoming less common) to run an ad-hoc PHP application by simply requesting the URL to the file. For example: * Drop myapp.php in to your httpd doc root * Request http://myserver.tld/myapp.p…

Post by anuraj » Tue, Jun 05, 2012, 6:01 PM UTC

anuraj wrote: post #48

bradleyland wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the genesis if this problem is due mostly to the fact that programmers from a PHP background are used to not thinking about their server stack. That is changing though. In languages like PHP, it's possible (again, this is becoming less common) to run an ad-hoc PHP application by simply requesting the URL to the file. For example: * Drop myapp.php in to your httpd doc root * Request http://myserver.tld/myapp.p…

Are you saying Java deployment is complex? WAR files have been easiest to hot deploy for at least a decade - that too directly from your IDE with the click of a button. PHP deployment simplicity definitely beats everything - and Ruby will come last :(