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The ‘Network of Web Trees’ in Gaza

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Re: The ‘Network of Web Trees’ in Gaza

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Post by woodruffw »

aprilthird2021 wrote: post #37
throw0320 wrote: post #28

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Yes I think if the walls between Gaza and Israel came down it would be a moment like the taking down of the Berlin wall. Two people, ruled by the same government, finally experiencing the same rights, same freedoms, same status, etc. How to tear down that wall without the extremists trying to kill their "enemies" on each side first, that no one has the answer to

Regardless of your outlook on I/P, I don't think either side agrees that they currently do (or particularly want to) share the same government.

(That's not to assert my own view. But to compare it to the Berlin Wall seems faulty.)

Re: The ‘Network of Web Trees’ in Gaza

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Post by mrtksn »

Ah this reminds of Cuba: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEplzHraw3c

I bet everywhere with restricted internet something of this sort exists.

It also reminds the tech startup scene in Gaza, when I was browsing Google Maps to see what kind of economy they have there I recall stumbling upon startup schools. It's fascinating to browse the maps and see familiar things on places you wouldn't expect , I wish the best both to Gazans and the Israeli.

Anyway, just for a bit of humanisation of the people there, here is a spontaneous street performans by a Gazan dancer in Europe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSLR6uKTZX4

It's one of the most beautiful things I've seen. Notice how she transforms from fathers little girl into this elegant creature the moment she makes her first move? I think people completely transform into another persona when the assume a role and in this video you can see the transformation. IMHO a similar transformation happens when people have a connection to an environment outside of theirs, therefore this stuff is important for things beyond the practical needs.

Re: The ‘Network of Web Trees’ in Gaza

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Post by lazyasciiart »

aprilthird2021 wrote: post #37
throw0320 wrote: post #28

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Yes I think if the walls between Gaza and Israel came down it would be a moment like the taking down of the Berlin wall. Two people, ruled by the same government, finally experiencing the same rights, same freedoms, same status, etc. How to tear down that wall without the extremists trying to kill their "enemies" on each side first, that no one has the answer to

It would probably be a good start if Israel just stopped bombing or otherwise closing Palestine's sea front or land borders with other countries. They don't even have to open their own border to civilians trying to escape their air strikes!

Re: The ‘Network of Web Trees’ in Gaza

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Post by myth_drannon »

aprilthird2021 wrote: post #37
throw0320 wrote: post #28

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Yes I think if the walls between Gaza and Israel came down it would be a moment like the taking down of the Berlin wall. Two people, ruled by the same government, finally experiencing the same rights, same freedoms, same status, etc. How to tear down that wall without the extremists trying to kill their "enemies" on each side first, that no one has the answer to

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Re: The ‘Network of Web Trees’ in Gaza

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Post by lazyasciiart »

aprilthird2021 wrote: post #40

I wonder why this is not a situation where Starlink could have been deployed?

a) lack of shipping resources, electricity, etc b) which people are reluctant to waste on something that will instantly be a visible target and probably last about five minutes c) Musk is on Netanyahu's side https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/28/elon-musks-israel-...

Re: The ‘Network of Web Trees’ in Gaza

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Post by TaylorAlexander »

maybelsyrup wrote: post #33

> the telecommunications infrastructure has been severely damaged Distal to the tech here but man, once you see the passive voice vs active voice stuff on this issue, you really can't un-see it. Astounding. Edit: finished the article. The tech here really is stunning -- like, the ratio of ingenuity to resources is insane.

Can confirm can’t unsee it! And you realize it’s used a lot. If Russia destroys infrastructure in Ukraine, our news says “Ukrainians adapted after the Russian military destroyed their networks”. When the IDF destroys Gazan networks, the story is “Gazans adapted after their networks were destroyed”.

Same thing happens with police shootings. “A stray bullet killed a child during police encounter” is a common type of headline. “Police officer shoots kid” is less common.

Re: The ‘Network of Web Trees’ in Gaza

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Post by immibis »

maybelsyrup wrote: post #33

> the telecommunications infrastructure has been severely damaged Distal to the tech here but man, once you see the passive voice vs active voice stuff on this issue, you really can't un-see it. Astounding. Edit: finished the article. The tech here really is stunning -- like, the ratio of ingenuity to resources is insane.

I believe political judgements are against the Hacker News guidelines as I've been reprimanded for making them in the past. Your comment should be removed by the moderators.

If you'd said it about Ukraine/Russia, it wouldn't be removed.

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