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OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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Post by delecti »

sourcecodeplz wrote: post #17
cjk2 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's sort of like a crack dealer's free tier. You know it's going to end miserably but you just can't help yourself.

Not necessarily, use it for testing only (not production) and you will be fine.

I know you're talking about the cloud offerings, but the idea of using just a little bit of crack as "not production" is hilarious to me.

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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Post by ls612 »

SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #33
sourcecodeplz wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not necessarily, use it for testing only (not production) and you will be fine.

I run a little kube cluster on it that serves as the brain for my home lab on it and it’s been cranking along just fine for the better part of half a year. It’s all IaC and ephemeral so if it died tomorrow I could just restart it. Quite generous for $0

Can you feasibly run a homelab C&C server on the free tier of any of the big 3?

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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Post by yoyohello13 »

behnamoh wrote: post #9

Lots of negative comments about Oracle. If they're so bad, how come PMs and higher ups keep choosing them? Is there no resistance voice from engineers? Edit: I'm getting downvoted by engineers. I guess they have to vent somehow... How about take your downvote to the PM who's going to sign a new Oracle contract?

The amount of shit software my org has bought with seemingly no technical people in the meetings in mindboggling. For some reason the MO seems to be to bring the tech people in after the purchase to 'integrate'. Maybe because managers know the technical people would object and they just want to buy a solution now so it seems they are worth the inflated salary.

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

ls612 wrote: post #42
SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I run a little kube cluster on it that serves as the brain for my home lab on it and it’s been cranking along just fine for the better part of half a year. It’s all IaC and ephemeral so if it died tomorrow I could just restart it. Quite generous for $0

Can you feasibly run a homelab C&C server on the free tier of any of the big 3?

It’s possible to run a single node cluster on GCP for almost free, especially if you’re creative with spot instance. But afaik, not really otherwise. OCI is far and away more generous, giving you 4 dedicated always on nodes, which is just enough to run a decent mini cluster

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

arresin wrote: post #34
crowcroft wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've found Oracle's free tier quite generous. I guess OpenAI does as well.

I’ve heard of people being cut off without warning on the free tier.

Yes. Not only are there bad actors, but oracle aggressively culls underutilized instances. If you sign up and attach your billing info you won’t get that happening to you. I know, it sounds silly, but once I did that I had no issues. It’s difficult to even get instances provisioned if you don’t do that, it’s really only possible by having a script that runs and continually retries/requests instances. I’ve had my billing info tied to it and never had an issue with being charged or having instances deprovisioned the entire half year I’ve been using it.

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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Post by michaelt »

behnamoh wrote: post #9

Lots of negative comments about Oracle. If they're so bad, how come PMs and higher ups keep choosing them? Is there no resistance voice from engineers? Edit: I'm getting downvoted by engineers. I guess they have to vent somehow... How about take your downvote to the PM who's going to sign a new Oracle contract?

Oracle's database is actually pretty good, if price is no object and you've got a team of competent DBAs looking after it, who'll lock you out of most of the footguns. Particularly a few decades ago, when MySQL's query planning was very basic.

And sure, once you're locked in they'll jack the price up more and more every year - or worse, your business will grow and the bosses will try to control costs by not licensing more CPUs. But it's not your money, and you can always just go work somewhere else, whereupon the vendor lock-in isn't your problem.

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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Post by bayindirh »

cjk2 wrote: post #13
crowcroft wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've found Oracle's free tier quite generous. I guess OpenAI does as well.

It's sort of like a crack dealer's free tier. You know it's going to end miserably but you just can't help yourself.

I also have a couple of ARM servers there, nothing fancy. The internal networks and machine are extremely snappy for what they provide. Even the containers I threw in run great.

If you need small needs, it's a good provider. The dashboard is very convoluted, though.

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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Post by qudat »

Someone1234 wrote: post #4

Oracle Cloud is a bad product and I wouldn't recommend. I'm guessing Oracle practically gifted OpenAI compute to make this possible and that this announcement is the whole purpose (i.e. "look at us, we're equal to AWS/Azure!!! OpenAI runs here!!!"). Oracle and Google Cloud have been doing this stuff constantly .

We run https://pico.sh on their free tier, can’t complain about our experience.
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