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Noam Chomsky 'no longer able to talk' after 'medical event'

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Re: Noam Chomsky 'no longer able to talk' after 'medical event'

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Post by tptacek »

ein0p wrote: post #39
feedforward wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US began arming the "Khmer Rouge" (whatever that means) in 1979 as well as protecting them in the UN, so the equivalence seems pretty valid to me. Not to mention the US 1970 invasion of Cambodia and concurrent CIA-backed overthrow of the Cambodian government, which including shooting dead US students who protested against it at Kent State and Jackson State, or the US carpet bombing of Cambodia during and after Op…

I recall vehemently disagreeing with Chomsky on many things when I was much younger, but then I somehow stumbled upon Howard Zinn’s “People’s history of the United States” and realized the version of history I knew was basically concentrated propaganda I was brainwashed into believing. That opened the door to understanding Chomsky. “Manufacturing consent” explains our present state of affairs really well.

Zinn's reputation among historians: not all that great.

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Post by vr46 »

xnx wrote: post #13

The full obituaries and reflections will come later, but the volume alone of papers, essays, books, articles, and interviews he's generated over his 95 year life is staggering.

The man writes faster than I can realistically read, but I still have a full shelf that I have dipped into over the last 32 years. Linguistics to Gaza, one of my proudest moments was once having some wingnut include me on a public list of enemies alongside Chomsky.

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Post by ein0p »

tptacek wrote: post #41
ein0p wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recall vehemently disagreeing with Chomsky on many things when I was much younger, but then I somehow stumbled upon Howard Zinn’s “People’s history of the United States” and realized the version of history I knew was basically concentrated propaganda I was brainwashed into believing. That opened the door to understanding Chomsky. “Manufacturing consent” explains our present state of affairs really well.

Zinn's reputation among historians: not all that great.

Reputation of historians according to Zinn: not all that great either. Read him as a counterpoint, and food for critical thought, not as the sole source of truth. He doesn’t hide that he has an agenda.

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Post by hi-v-rocknroll »

xnx wrote: post #13

The full obituaries and reflections will come later, but the volume alone of papers, essays, books, articles, and interviews he's generated over his 95 year life is staggering.

Without a doubt. Manufacturing Consent and The Fateful Triangle* should be assigned reading to US high school students.

* Today is in more-or-less the same predicament as 40 years ago

Ralph Nader is also still out there at 90 producing content regularly.

https://www.youtube.com/@RalphNaderRadioHour

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Post by gizmo686 »

SomeoneFromCA wrote: post #46

Speaking of non-political side of him: was not he wrong about "innate grammar" necessary to understand langage? LLM do not have such circuitry, yet they somehow work well...

No. Innate grammar has always been about how humans aquire language, not how any possible system which understands human language must posses that innate grammar.

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Post by yareal »

tptacek wrote: post #41
ein0p wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recall vehemently disagreeing with Chomsky on many things when I was much younger, but then I somehow stumbled upon Howard Zinn’s “People’s history of the United States” and realized the version of history I knew was basically concentrated propaganda I was brainwashed into believing. That opened the door to understanding Chomsky. “Manufacturing consent” explains our present state of affairs really well.

Zinn's reputation among historians: not all that great.

"People who I am critical of don't like me" is not particularly surprising, to be honest.
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