> until their last dated survival 4 kyr ago.
Wow I did not realize they survived that long, that's well after the invention of writing for example.
Siberia's 'mammoth graveyard' reveals 800-year human interactions with mammoths
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Re: Siberia's 'mammoth graveyard' reveals 800-year human interactions with mammoths
#42> Sadly, now that human-mammoth relationship has continued as ivory hunters have looted the site beyond further study. Radio free europe had a really good photo essay on these new mammoth pirates: https://www.rferl.org/a/the-mammoth-pirates/27939865.html
Funding for RFE/RL aside, neat article, and whoever that was almost got a Half-Life death out in the woods with a crowbar.
> Boozy camaraderie is quickly exhausted and the atmosphere turns ugly. One tusker picks up a metal bar and slams it onto a woodpile before turning on me. He pauses for a moment before swiping it above my head. As I back out of the camp, he collapses onto a bench, calling, “Where’s the dog?!”
Also, that "Mosquitoes are a near constant plague." image is one of the most disgusting things I think I've seen recently. Pass out drunk and wake up to feet covered with bugs in the morning.
Re: Siberia's 'mammoth graveyard' reveals 800-year human interactions with mammoths
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
That article is from 2016.
It could be argued that Ukraine's 2014 revolution occurred with the backing of the US and was the most immediate precursor to the present situation. I'm not claiming it was or wasn't just that there is a case this was brewing long before 2022.
When the strongest evidence is 'the Americans handed out cookies to those protesting for independence' I'm not sure it's really an 'argument'.
Re: Siberia's 'mammoth graveyard' reveals 800-year human interactions with mammoths
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which enemy?
Russia? The west is in a war-like situation with Russia. Portraying them as stupid, drunk rednecks who ravage trough the environment certainly fits the narrative. Doesn't mean it's not true though.
Looting of national treasures is pretty typical of Russia.
A large country, the tsar (or the government) is far away, local governors can be bribed ... unless you do something that endangers the entire country/system, you can get away with a lot.
Re: Siberia's 'mammoth graveyard' reveals 800-year human interactions with mammoths
#45> until their last dated survival 4 kyr ago. Wow I did not realize they survived that long, that's well after the invention of writing for example.
The first pharaohs and the last woolly mammoths on the Wrangel Island were contemporaries.
Of course, as far as travel from Egypt to the Arctic Ocean goes, they could have lived on different planets.
Re: Siberia's 'mammoth graveyard' reveals 800-year human interactions with mammoths
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
It could be argued that Ukraine's 2014 revolution occurred with the backing of the US and was the most immediate precursor to the present situation. I'm not claiming it was or wasn't just that there is a case this was brewing long before 2022.
When the strongest evidence is 'the Americans handed out cookies to those protesting for independence' I'm not sure it's really an 'argument'.
To what extent do we expect to see direct evidence the Euromaidan protests were instigated/leveraged by intelligence officers and associated cutouts for strategic purposes? I don't know and the lack of concrete evidence makes me reluctant to draw any firm conclusions but a comment from a former intelligence analyst seems interesting to me:
From https://www.democracynow.org/2014/3/3/who_is_provoking_the_u...:
"RAY McGOVERN: Well, a couple of things. You know, it really depends more on who seizes control of these uprisings. If you look at Bahrain, you know, if you look at Syria—even Egypt, to an extent—these were initially popular uprisings. The question is: Who took them over? Who spurred them? Who provoked them even more for their own particular strategic interests? And it’s very clear what’s happened to the Ukraine. It used to be the CIA doing these things. I know that for a fact. OK, now it’s the National Endowment for Democracy, a hundred million bucks, 62 projects in the Ukraine. So, again, you don’t have to be a paranoid Russian to suggest that, you know, they’re really trying to do what they—do in the Ukraine what they’ve done in the rest of Eastern Europe and elsewhere."
Re: Siberia's 'mammoth graveyard' reveals 800-year human interactions with mammoths
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
It could be argued that Ukraine's 2014 revolution occurred with the backing of the US and was the most immediate precursor to the present situation. I'm not claiming it was or wasn't just that there is a case this was brewing long before 2022.
When the strongest evidence is 'the Americans handed out cookies to those protesting for independence' I'm not sure it's really an 'argument'.
Re: Siberia's 'mammoth graveyard' reveals 800-year human interactions with mammoths
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
It could be argued that Ukraine's 2014 revolution occurred with the backing of the US and was the most immediate precursor to the present situation. I'm not claiming it was or wasn't just that there is a case this was brewing long before 2022.
When the strongest evidence is 'the Americans handed out cookies to those protesting for independence' I'm not sure it's really an 'argument'.
The cookies were handed to the riot police, not protestors.
Re: Siberia's 'mammoth graveyard' reveals 800-year human interactions with mammoths
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
When the strongest evidence is 'the Americans handed out cookies to those protesting for independence' I'm not sure it's really an 'argument'.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957
IMO, this falls short of directly implicating the USG in the revolution but it certainly highlights their detailed concern in the region and a desire for specific outcomes. It makes it harder to believe USG intelligence operatives were completely hands-off. To what extent the situation was being driven by them is something I can't tell/guess.
Re: Siberia's 'mammoth graveyard' reveals 800-year human interactions with mammoths
#50> Sadly, now that human-mammoth relationship has continued as ivory hunters have looted the site beyond further study. Radio free europe had a really good photo essay on these new mammoth pirates: https://www.rferl.org/a/the-mammoth-pirates/27939865.html
Funding for RFE/RL aside, neat article, and whoever that was almost got a Half-Life death out in the woods with a crowbar. > Boozy camaraderie is quickly exhausted and the atmosphere turns ugly. One tusker picks up a metal bar and slams it onto a woodpile before turning on me. He pauses for a moment before swiping it above my head. As I back out of the camp, he collapses onto a bench, calling, “Where’s the dog?!” Als…
Some things in life are just impossible to survive without a crate of vodka, it seems.